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Re: Looking for a Pilot (NOT Pirate) JAMES HAYDEN b. 1806?
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 09 June 18 13:35 BST (UK) »
What source do they give for the father being William

Where have you obtained Hannahs maiden name of Draper if you do not have a marriage for her
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Re: Looking for a Pilot (NOT Pirate) JAMES HAYDEN b. 1806?
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 09 June 18 14:13 BST (UK) »
What source do they give for the father being William

Where have you obtained Hannahs maiden name of Draper if you do not have a marriage for her

She showed no sources but much of it has been correct so far so I have no reason to doubt her.
I am researching the family named Molyneux (or possibly Molineux, Molineaux and Molyneaux (or with 2'LL's or without the 'X')), of South East Lancashire (Wigan, Pemberton and Ormskirk area), England.

Also researching; Fairhurst, Lancaster (Lancaster-Fairhurst), Griffith and Hayden (Haydon)

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Re: Looking for a Pilot (NOT Pirate) JAMES HAYDEN b. 1806?
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 09 June 18 14:28 BST (UK) »
Have you then discounted the baptism for James with mother Hannah and no father  :-\

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Re: Looking for a Pilot (NOT Pirate) JAMES HAYDEN b. 1806?
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 09 June 18 14:37 BST (UK) »
Could it not be a misreading of the 1841 census occupation of Linen Draper which has attributed the surname of Draper to Hannah?

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Re: Looking for a Pilot (NOT Pirate) JAMES HAYDEN b. 1806?
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 09 June 18 14:39 BST (UK) »
That is a very good point Pheno  ;D

Just posting this in case it is later applicable
Possible baptism for Hannah Hayden 1786 parents William & Deborah
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QLYH-GZY6

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Re: Looking for a Pilot (NOT Pirate) JAMES HAYDEN b. 1806?
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 09 June 18 14:51 BST (UK) »
Yes I agree that he is likely the Son of unm Hannah 1786, her Parents William/Deborah.

I agree there could be a confusion, 1851 Hannah says she is widowed and down as formerly Draper
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Re: Looking for a Pilot (NOT Pirate) JAMES HAYDEN b. 1806?
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 09 June 18 15:14 BST (UK) »
Thanks Trish at least that confirms it is her occupation and not her maiden name  :)
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Re: Looking for a Pilot (NOT Pirate) JAMES HAYDEN b. 1806?
« Reply #16 on: Monday 11 June 18 14:50 BST (UK) »
FindMyPast have a James Hayden of St Helens listed on the death duty index in 1848.

It could have been either of these though
HAYDEN, JAMES       age 42     
1848  March Quarter in ISLE OF WIGHT  Volume 08  Page 209   

HAYDEN, JAMES       age 56     
1848  Dec Quarter in ISLE OF WIGHT  Volume 08  Page 149

Hannah also appears on DD index in 1867 - Probate index states she was a spinster
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Re: Looking for a Pilot (NOT Pirate) JAMES HAYDEN b. 1806?
« Reply #17 on: Monday 11 June 18 14:59 BST (UK) »
Hannahs entry on probate index for 1867
Hannah Hayden formerly of Nettlestone but late of Sea View, both in the Isle of Wight. Spinster. Died 7 August 1862 at Sea View
https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/Calendar?surname=hayden&yearOfDeath=1867&page=5#calendar

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Hampshire Advertiser 16 August 1862 and the Isle of Wight Times
On the 7th inst at Sea View, near Ryde Hannah Hayden age 76
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