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Re: Walter Collins
« Reply #36 on: Saturday 14 July 18 02:06 BST (UK) »
Possibly the Brunswick reference was sourced from this record.  I note that Walter's occupation on the birth certificates for his two children in Tasmania was house painter and painter.

COLLINS Walter
Unemployed
Date 1892
Place East Brunswick, Victoria
Status Married
Occupation Painter.
Source: Index to the Register of unemployed tradesmen and labourers.
Public Record Office Victoria: VPRS 1053/P0 Units 1-3.  Unit 2 Pge 121
Comment No of children 2

Cando
It does state married here on register although his divorce from Rebecca Biddulph was given in 1879
 ??? could the Louisa in 1903 Australian Electoral Roll be a new wife?[/size]

Prior to posting the above I searched both my Tasmanian and Victorian resources for a second marriage for Walter to a Louisa/Louise.  No result. 
Perhaps consider the reason for Walter appearing on the index.  Perhaps there was some kind of relief available for the unemployed and if he was living in a defacto relationship he would naturally write married.
I can't help you anymore.  The death certificate needs to be seen for you to progress with your research otherwise it is speculation.

Good luck
Cando
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Re: Walter Collins
« Reply #37 on: Saturday 14 July 18 02:11 BST (UK) »
Cheers will do. :)
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Re: Walter Collins
« Reply #38 on: Saturday 14 July 18 02:18 BST (UK) »
Freya would you please type up all the details from the death certificate.  More curious than anything else ;D

I've searched the larger cemeteries in the Metropolitan area for his burial and could only find a 1907 burial for a Walter COLLINGS at Coburg Pine Ridge but place of burial location unknown.  Possibly a pauper burial with others.   Of course it may not be him and he may have been buried at Melbourne General Cemetery and their records are not online.

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Re: Walter Collins
« Reply #39 on: Saturday 14 July 18 02:49 BST (UK) »
Righto will work on that today ;D

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Re: Walter Collins
« Reply #40 on: Saturday 14 July 18 05:05 BST (UK) »
Cando

"The death of Walter Collins"
Walter Collins died aged 66yrs 3 December 1907, his occupation is down as painter.
Parents listed as Robert Collins, Clerk and his wife Jane Collins nee Allason.
He was buried on the 4th at Coburg Cemetery, note was born in Sunderland England, 17yrs lived in Tasmania and 19 in Victoria, he married once to Rebecca Biddulph, say for 27yrs, but we know they divorced when in Tasmania. Children Robert Biddulph aged 24 and Thomas Hedley aged 32.
Cause of death Brain Tumour ;D

Thanks for your great help ;D
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Re: Walter Collins
« Reply #41 on: Saturday 14 July 18 05:14 BST (UK) »

"..Walter Collins died aged 66yrs 3 December 1907"

Where did he die, and who is the informant.

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Re: Walter Collins
« Reply #42 on: Saturday 14 July 18 05:23 BST (UK) »
Thank you Freya.  Pleased it was your man :)

What were the ages of his children on the certificate?

I think you have misinterpreted the marriage information.  The heading of the column on Victorian death certs in that era "If Deceased Was Married" and under the heading "Where and at what age and to whom".  As you have mentioned 27 years that would refer to Walter's age when he married Rebecca in England.

Informant's name can often be very helpful but so often it is the undertaker or his staff.  Hopefully in this case it is family member or neighbour.

Bear in mind that information on a death certificate is often inaccurate but much of what you have typed is correct.  The informant may not have been aware that Walter was divorced.  Now I wonder who was Louisa COLLINS who was enrolled to vote at the same address in 1903?

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Re: Walter Collins
« Reply #43 on: Saturday 14 July 18 05:30 BST (UK) »
Cando

"The death of Walter Collins"
Walter Collins died aged 66yrs 3 December 1907, his occupation is down as painter.
Parents listed as Robert Collins, Clerk and his wife Jane Collins nee Allason.
He was buried on the 4th at Coburg Cemetery, note was born in Sunderland England, 17yrs lived in Tasmania and 19 in Victoria, he married once to Rebecca Biddulph, say for 27yrs, but we know they divorced when in Tasmania. Children Robert Biddulph aged 24 and Thomas Hedley aged 32.
Cause of death Brain Tumour ;D

Thanks for your great help ;D

Obviously a pauper burial in common ground.

COLLINGS    Walter   66 years        
Coburg Pine Ridge Cemetery   
CHURCH ENGLAND Common Graves   CO-COEC*X***1X    Interment   04 Dec 1907

You may like to advise the Trust of the error in their database.  I suggest you forward a scan of the death certificate.

enquiries@gmct.com.au

Cando



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Re: Walter Collins
« Reply #44 on: Saturday 14 July 18 05:41 BST (UK) »
I spent some time tyring to trace Robert Biddulph COLLINS and nothing. However back tracking to double check his birth cert, baptism and the divorce papers I find he was named Theophilus Robert COLLINS in the latter. 

There is a marriage for a Theophilus COLLINS in NSW in 1915.  Of course it may simply be a coincidence. 



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