Duffy Family - Help needed to move onwards.

[Real Lee History]

Most of my branches are developing well and have born interesting fruit.

However, my father's bloodline remains elusive to progress (well - for me at the moment). I have had a previous post to help my ggf John 1857 ' brickwall ' and the advice from those helping was to obtain his first marriage certificate, which I was able to do ( I copied it to my original post). That gave his father's name - Edward but armed with this, I have still been unable to 'leap forward'.

Another thought was to develop John's children with a view that that may be easier and release some new information from another angle. But his children's records also seem very elusive (to me).

I currently have these details for the family:

Edward (father of John from the Marriage Certificate of John and Mary Hawthorn 1882 Salford)

John (previous post will show there are 2 possibilities for birth ?) 1857. I know he was born Lloughlyn, County Roscommon, Ireland from Census info.

First Marriage 1882 Mary Hawthorn(e) - Confirmed with actual marriage cert ordered/rec'd

Children:

Edward 1883 - Marriage possibilities two - Rose Ann Dodd 1903 (8d 181), Marguerite Simpson 1907 (8d 219) ?

James   1885 - Marriage possibly to Mary Agnes Derbyshire but I believe she was born in Germany and I can find no further information as to whether Derbyshire is Maiden or previous marriage name or Wedding citation to James.
John     1887 - Little found
Charles 1889 - Little found
William Henry 1891 - Little found

& Joseph 1893 (my grandfather)

I have been able to confirm all the above on GRO with Hawthorn as MMN.

1891 Census shows them all (apart from Joseph) BUT transcribed as Hawthorn(e) as surname NOT Duffy.

I have trawled through the transcribed Ordsall (I believe they resided), Salford Parish Church records to confirm Baptisms but all notes on these just give John & Mary as parents. http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Salford/


I am not coming from this from a specific person point of view. Could anyone find a bit more information or citation/record proof for any of these ancestors ? One piece may unlock my ability to shuffle forward with the others in family or indeed 'unlock' the Duffy Family Ireland to Salford era brickwall.

I utilise Family Search which does not yield anything for my searches on these individuals. I also use FreeBMD and GRO. I am not on Ancestry or similar due to cost.

Always amazed and grateful at what is found by the members

Thank you

[jim1]

I copied it to my original post)

Can you give a link to it to save duplication.

[Real Lee History]

I copied it to my original post)

Can you give a link to it to save duplication.

Yes - No problem Jim. I attach the image of John and Mary's Wedding Certificate which I rec'd from records.

Moderator comment: full certificate image removed. Small snippets only are allowed for deciphering purposes

[Ellenmai]

Edward Duffy born 1883 married Marguerite Elsie Simpson in 1907 4Q Salford. Children Mary Ruth Duffy born 1909 & Edward Duffy born 1910. They lived at 38 Amos Street, Langworthy, Pendleton, Salford.

[Real Lee History]

Edward Duffy born 1883 married Marguerite Elsie Simpson in 1907 4Q Salford. Children Mary Ruth Duffy born 1909 & Edward Duffy born 1910. They lived at 38 Amos Street, Langworthy, Pendleton, Salford.

Thank you Ellenmai


As I mentioned I had either Rose Ann Dodd (1903) or Marguerite Simpson 1907 as possibilities. Can I ask how you feel Marguerite is the wife as opposed to Rose. Both married Edwards.
?

Appreciate the help.

[Ellenmai]

The Edward Duffy who married Rose Ann Dodd, it states his DOB is 3/7/1882 on the 1939 Register. That Edward Duffy's mother was Barker.

[Real Lee History]

The Edward Duffy who married Rose Ann Dodd, it states his DOB is 3/7/1882 on the 1939 Register. That Edward Duffy's mother was Barker.

Brilliant. Thank you. With other Edward's Mother Maiden Name - that discounts him.

I will key in Marguerite to Edward Duffy b1883.


A step forward - I am grateful thanks

[Ellenmai]

I think Jim was asking you to put a link to your original post regarding 'John 1857 Brickwall', so we can see what other members have found regarding the family.
Is there a possibility Charles died in WW1 as I have found a death and will post the information if you think it's your Charles.

[candrjm]

Quote from: Ellenmai on Today at 14:27

    The Edward Duffy who married Rose Ann Dodd, it states his DOB is 3/7/1882 on the 1939 Register. That Edward Duffy's mother was Barker.



Brilliant. Thank you. With other Edward's Mother Maiden Name - that discounts him.

and just to confirm:

Also the marriage of Rose Ann Dodd and Edward Duffy is on the familysearch website and records Edward Duffy's father as Frederick Duffy