Duffy Family - Help needed to move onwards.

[Real Lee History]

The Edward Duffy who married Rose Ann Dodd, it states his DOB is 3/7/1882 on the 1939 Register. That Edward Duffy's mother was Barker.

Brilliant. Thank you. With other Edward's Mother Maiden Name - that discounts him.

I will key in Marguerite to Edward Duffy b1883.


A step forward - I am grateful thanks

Keying this information just now, Family Search came up with no possible duplicates for the marriage nor either children when keyed (almost accepting the records as new). My Duffy ancestors didn't wish to be found I believe

[Real Lee History]

I think Jim was asking you to put a link to your original post regarding 'John 1857 Brickwall', so we can see what other members have found regarding the family.
Is there a possibility Charles died in WW1 as I have found a death and will post the information if you think it's your Charles.

Ah - OK. I will post the copied link to the post chat.

[Real Lee History]

Quote from: Ellenmai on Today at 14:27

    The Edward Duffy who married Rose Ann Dodd, it states his DOB is 3/7/1882 on the 1939 Register. That Edward Duffy's mother was Barker.



Brilliant. Thank you. With other Edward's Mother Maiden Name - that discounts him.

and just to confirm:

Also the marriage of Rose Ann Dodd and Edward Duffy is on the familysearch website and records Edward Duffy's father as Frederick Duffy

Thanks. Info adds to the elimination of Rose Ann Dodd as a candidate . Also, if its on FS website i'm strongly believing it can't be my ancestors on the Duffy line as they are trying to hide !!

[Real Lee History]

This is the previous Duffy/Hawthorn Marriage thread link :

www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=793319.0


which includes the discussion on John Duffy and Mary Hawthorn (e) Marriage at the time. This was before I gained the earlier posted Marriage Certificate.

[Real Lee History]

Is there a possibility Charles died in WW1 as I have found a death and will post the information if you think it's your Charles.

Ellenmai

I have no information on Charles at all apart from 2 child census entries. Appears to have been entered as 'Charlie' rather than Charles on those. There is no family recollection from my father as he has little to no information on John (his grandfather) as it appears it just wasn't discussed.

John's fathers name of Edward was news to my dad and he enjoyed learning. He (my dad) is in his eighties now and was the youngest of 6 born to Joseph Duffy who also was the youngest of 6 from John/Mary Hawthorns marriage. Joseph was 6 years after Charles.

Back to Charles, he could have been a casualty of WW1 but I have nothing to go on apart from birth year.

[candrjm]

Mary Agnes Derbyshire in 1901 census:

Durham Street Prestwich

Head: Thomas Derbyshire aged 47 born Eccles Lancs
Wife: Agnes aged 33 born Germany (British Subject)
Dau: Catherine aged 1 born Manchester Lancs
Dau: Alice aged 0 born Manchester Lancs

Marriage for the couple:

Marriages Sep 1896 
Derbyshire    Thomas        Chorlton    8c   1527    
Polus    Agnes         Chorlton    8c   1527   


Possible death for Thomas Derbyshire:

Deaths Sep 1906 
Derbyshire    Thomas    52    Prestwich    8d   282

Births registrations for Derbyshire children shown living with James Duffy and wife Mary Agnes:

DERBYSHIRE, CATHERINE        mothers maiden name POLUS        
GRO Reference: 1899  J Quarter in CHORLTON  Volume 08C  Page 903

DERBYSHIRE, ALICE        mothers maiden name GOLUS      
GRO Reference: 1901  M Quarter in PRESTWICH  Volume 08D  Page 421 

DERBYSHIRE, WILFRED        mothers maiden name POLUS      
GRO Reference: 1902  D Quarter in PRESTWICH  Volume 08D  Page 436

DERBYSHIRE, MARY  AGNES      mothers maiden name POLUS        
GRO Reference: 1905  D Quarter in PRESTWICH  Volume 08D  Page 290

Marriage:

Sep 1910 
Derbyshire    Agnes        Prestwich    8d   714    
Duffy    James         Prestwich    8d   714   

[Real Lee History]

Am away from the board for about an hour or so but will reply to any posts that are added as soon as I return.

Thanks for adding thoughts / comments or updates - they really do help.

[candrjm]

You say John Duffy was born Lloughlyn  (I can't find a Lloughlyn so maybe Loughglinn)

There is this birth reg (possible brother for John Duffy):

24th May 1866 Moyne Loughglinn Charles son of Edward Duffy Land Holder of Moyne and Catherine (nee Jordan) 

can be viewed here:

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1866/03525/2296962.pdf

[Real Lee History]

Mary Agnes Derbyshire in 1901 census:

Durham Street Prestwich

Head: Thomas Derbyshire aged 47 born Eccles Lancs
Wife: Agnes aged 33 born Germany (British Subject)
Dau: Catherine aged 1 born Manchester Lancs
Dau: Alice aged 0 born Manchester Lancs

Marriage for the couple:

Marriages Sep 1896 
Derbyshire    Thomas        Chorlton    8c   1527    
Polus    Agnes         Chorlton    8c   1527   


Possible death for Thomas Derbyshire:

Deaths Sep 1906 
Derbyshire    Thomas    52    Prestwich    8d   282

Births registrations for Derbyshire children shown living with James Duffy and wife Mary Agnes:

DERBYSHIRE, CATHERINE        mothers maiden name POLUS        
GRO Reference: 1899  J Quarter in CHORLTON  Volume 08C  Page 903

DERBYSHIRE, ALICE        mothers maiden name GOLUS      
GRO Reference: 1901  M Quarter in PRESTWICH  Volume 08D  Page 421 

DERBYSHIRE, WILFRED        mothers maiden name POLUS      
GRO Reference: 1902  D Quarter in PRESTWICH  Volume 08D  Page 436

DERBYSHIRE, MARY  AGNES      mothers maiden name POLUS        
GRO Reference: 1905  D Quarter in PRESTWICH  Volume 08D  Page 290

Marriage:

Sep 1910 
Derbyshire    Agnes        Prestwich    8d   714    
Duffy    James         Prestwich    8d   714

Thank you

It really helps to build these childrens data, with a view to Johns (their Dad) and upwards. This certainly matches the Mary Derbyshire I have connected with James as her German roots can't be too common.

I will start placing the details of marriage plus children and James details in my tree and hopefully it will unlock a few more jigsaw pieces.

Much appreciated Candrjm