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Re: Could I be gypsy
« Reply #27 on: Friday 27 July 18 20:15 BST (UK) »
You can research them here...


 C Reg Birth, Marriage and Death results for Southwell  http://www.rootschat.com/links/01mf0/


see if you recognize anything.
And that should be the Southwell’s in my family?


Possibly that one Southwell family that were in Ireland for a bit but came back to England.... amongst them!
I searched Hester Southwell there and it could not be found. Also is this Southwell family Irish travellers.

I don't know... you'd need to check if it says so on Certs that have Images!
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Re: Could I be gypsy
« Reply #28 on: Friday 27 July 18 20:17 BST (UK) »
You can research them here...


 C Reg Birth, Marriage and Death results for Southwell  http://www.rootschat.com/links/01mf0/


see if you recognize anything.
And that should be the Southwell’s in my family?


Possibly that one Southwell family that were in Ireland for a bit but came back to England.... amongst them!
I searched Hester Southwell there and it could not be found. Also is this Southwell family Irish travellers.

I don't know... you'd need to check if it says so on Certs that have Images!
Ok thank you but what should I do because Hester Southwell cannot be found there.

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Re: Could I be gypsy
« Reply #29 on: Friday 27 July 18 20:23 BST (UK) »
This looks like the marriage to Martha, so his Father is William:

Joseph Webb  married 13th February 1839 at Romsey,Hampshire,England
Father: William Webb   Spouse: Martha Gear
FHL Film Number:   1041217

so this could be a late baptism:
Joseph Webb  Baptised 20th April 1825 at Romsey, Hampshire
Father: William Webb   Mother: Ann
FHL Film Number:   1596320

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« Reply #30 on: Friday 27 July 18 20:25 BST (UK) »
You can research them here...


 C Reg Birth, Marriage and Death results for Southwell  http://www.rootschat.com/links/01mf0/


see if you recognize anything.
And that should be the Southwell’s in my family?


Possibly that one Southwell family that were in Ireland for a bit but came back to England.... amongst them!
I searched Hester Southwell there and it could not be found. Also is this Southwell family Irish travellers.

I don't know... you'd need to check if it says so on Certs that have Images!
Ok thank you but what should I do because Hester Southwell cannot be found there.


Did you check the ones that are "unknown"?

The Index was used but the certs themselves have full information...
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Teach a man to research, and you feed him for a lifetime.


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Re: Could I be gypsy
« Reply #31 on: Friday 27 July 18 20:27 BST (UK) »
You can research them here...


 C Reg Birth, Marriage and Death results for Southwell  http://www.rootschat.com/links/01mf0/


see if you recognize anything.
And that should be the Southwell’s in my family?


Possibly that one Southwell family that were in Ireland for a bit but came back to England.... amongst them!
I searched Hester Southwell there and it could not be found. Also is this Southwell family Irish travellers.

I don't know... you'd need to check if it says so on Certs that have Images!
Ok thank you but what should I do because Hester Southwell cannot be found there.


Did you check the ones that are "unknown"?

The Index was used but the certs themselves have full information...
There is no births when she was born.

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Re: Could I be gypsy
« Reply #32 on: Friday 27 July 18 20:28 BST (UK) »
This looks like the marriage to Martha, so his Father is William:

Joseph Webb  married 13th February 1839 at Romsey,Hampshire,England
Father: William Webb   Spouse: Martha Gear
FHL Film Number:   1041217

so this could be a late baptism:
Joseph Webb  Baptised 20th April 1825 at Romsey, Hampshire
Father: William Webb   Mother: Ann
FHL Film Number:   1596320
Hmm that’s interested because I think I’ve heard quite a bit about a gypsy Webb family from a William and an Ann webb. Could you go back any further on Ann, William and Southwell please.

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Re: Could I be gypsy
« Reply #33 on: Friday 27 July 18 20:30 BST (UK) »
You can research them here...


 C Reg Birth, Marriage and Death results for Southwell  http://www.rootschat.com/links/01mf0/


see if you recognize anything.
And that should be the Southwell’s in my family?


Possibly that one Southwell family that were in Ireland for a bit but came back to England.... amongst them!
I searched Hester Southwell there and it could not be found. Also is this Southwell family Irish travellers.

I don't know... you'd need to check if it says so on Certs that have Images!
Ok thank you but what should I do because Hester Southwell cannot be found there.


Did you check the ones that are "unknown"?

The Index was used but the certs themselves have full information...
There is no births when she was born.


OK.  Not there so.
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Teach a man to research, and you feed him for a lifetime.

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Re: Could I be gypsy
« Reply #34 on: Friday 27 July 18 20:31 BST (UK) »
Hello,

Here is Hester/Esther Southwell in 1871

Piece:1204/folio 119/11
5, Shootash, East Wellow, Hampshire
George Southwell 49 yrs Wood Dealer b East Wellow
Sarah Southwell   45 yrs
Martha Southwell 21 yrs
George Southwell 12 yrs
Esther Southwell 5 yrs
Walter Southwell 1 yr

In earlier censuses, his mother Hannah is with the family. She is born in East Wellow too.

George was baptised in 1822 to Joseph and Hannah. So the family are in that place before 1822.

There is a marriage for Joseph Southwell and Hannah Long in E W 1798.

They family don not seem to be Irish or of the travelling community - unless they were settled for a very long time.


Heywood


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Re: Could I be gypsy
« Reply #35 on: Friday 27 July 18 20:38 BST (UK) »
There are many children for William and Ann Webb born in Romsey from 1802 onwards - could be same or 2 different couples.

There is a William and Ann Webb in Romsey Extra in 1851 census, William age 67, a dealer, and Ann is 70, both from Romsey.

This would make William about 18/19 when they married.

In that 1851 census they have a servant in their household.