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Re: West End Girls: East End Boy?
« Reply #9 on: Monday 30 July 18 08:22 BST (UK) »
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10 Grey House, Duke York

Might it be Bray House, Duke of York Street? That has a Flat 10.
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Re: West End Girls: East End Boy?
« Reply #10 on: Monday 30 July 18 09:31 BST (UK) »
Quote from: ShaunJ on Monday 30 July 18 08:22 BST (UK)
Might it be Bray House, Duke of York Street? That has a Flat 10.

"Nos. 4 and 5 [Duke of York Street] were rebuilt as Bray House in 1933–4 by M. J. Dawson."

https://www.british-history.ac.uk/survey-london/vols29-30/pt1/pp285-287

If it is indeed Bray, this might help with dating.
BARTRAM - Nottingham, Derby, originally Beds (Stagsden)
PERFETT - St Pancras & Marylebone, Rugby, Nottingham
RADFORD - Nottinghamshire, also back & forth to Bury
RUDD - Durham, Margate, Bermondsey, Newcastle, Nottingham

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Re: West End Girls: East End Boy?
« Reply #11 on: Monday 30 July 18 09:37 BST (UK) »
Quote from: tonepad on Monday 30 July 18 06:45 BST (UK)
There are two words embossed at the bottom right hand corner of the photo - but unable to read the fancy script.

I think it might be 'Princess Yvonne', listed here:

http://www.cartedevisite.co.uk/photographers-category/photographers/u-to-z/photographers-y/

Can't immediately find any supporting info.


ADDED: current eBay listing of photo with similar (clearer) embossing:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/OLD-PHOTO-POSTCARD-BEAUTIFUL-WOMAN-GLAMOUR-FASHION-by-princess-yvonne-BD3/153093000707

ADDED (2): wonder whether this is somehow related:

https://www.magictricks.com/princess-yvonne.html
BARTRAM - Nottingham, Derby, originally Beds (Stagsden)
PERFETT - St Pancras & Marylebone, Rugby, Nottingham
RADFORD - Nottinghamshire, also back & forth to Bury
RUDD - Durham, Margate, Bermondsey, Newcastle, Nottingham

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Re: West End Girls: East End Boy?
« Reply #12 on: Monday 30 July 18 09:46 BST (UK) »
Suffolk: Pearl(e),  Garnham, Southgate, Blo(o)mfield,Grimwood/Grimwade,Josselyn/Gosling
Durham/Yorkshire: Sedgwick/Sidgwick, Shadforth
Ireland: Davis
Norway: Torreson/Torsen/Torrison
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« Reply #13 on: Monday 30 July 18 10:05 BST (UK) »
On the 1939 Register at 10, Duke of York Street, City of Westminster.... A married couple and a housemaid live there. So not the Photographer in 1939.
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« Reply #14 on: Monday 30 July 18 10:08 BST (UK) »
Princess Yvonne was Edith Plummer, estranged wife of Jamette don d'Jonette Plummer of Froler Street, South Shields (per various newspapers, 16 October 1933). Her studio was in Charing Cross Road ("Yvonne's"). It's listed in the 1934 PO Directory at 102 , and in 1938 at 98. By 1938 the business was incorporated as Princess Yvonne (London) Ltd.   
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« Reply #15 on: Monday 30 July 18 10:12 BST (UK) »
In the 1939 register Flat 10 of 4-5 Duke of York Street appears to be vacant
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Re: West End Girls: East End Boy?
« Reply #16 on: Monday 30 July 18 10:20 BST (UK) »
The sheet I have looked at doesn't say  Flat, Shaun, it just gives the address as 10 Duke of York Street, in Kevin's original post the address doesn't mention Flat.
Added...I see now that you have looked at "Bray House"..I stand corrected.

I'll get my coat  ::) ;D ;D ;D
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Re: West End Girls: East End Boy?
« Reply #17 on: Monday 30 July 18 10:59 BST (UK) »
I can't see a from Jean & Ivy. It looks to me like love to Jean & Ivy & then signed by someone.
Maybe the poster can show us the back so we can decide what it says about the address.
Anyone like to have a go at who signed it?
Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
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