Will of Thomas Grey, 2nd Marquess of Dorset

[WillowG]

I think 'lynary' would possibly be their 'linen' - ie, new underclothes!

Or perhaps livary, like lyverye in #32 above, meaning 'uniform'.

Ah, yes, that would make sense too 

[WillowG]

The last line of #34 could be ... werr lately recoverid by a form(er) title ... ?

Ooh, yes, a little bit of intrigue there between competing courtiers, perhaps? 

So well done, goldie and Bookbox!!!

[Maiden Stone]

Willow reply #80. Incorrect Roman numerals for Elizabeth of York's father.
I made a similar mistake in a history exam at school.

[Bookbox]

Snippet 35

... and for the continuall payment of the said pore men that shalbe from tyme to tyme assignid

namid and appoyntid to be put into the same house to thentent* that pore men may ever

contynewe in the said Almes house  and I will that all suche rent(es) issues and proffitt(es)

that shall growe of the said ij manours londis and ten(emen)tis in Bedworthe and packington

and other the premiss(es) over and beyond suche as shalbe contentid spent and paid to the ...

     * = the intent


Snippet 36

... said pore men and their uses as is abovesaide shalbe for the maynten(a)nce and reparacion

of the said almes houses and the residue bey^o^ned that if anny be shalbe disposed and gyven

yerely the day of my deceas by myne executours duringe their tyme  And after their deceas ...

[goldie61]

I think 'lynary' would possibly be their 'linen' - ie, new underclothes!

Or perhaps livary, like lyverye in #32 above, meaning 'uniform'.

The last line of #34 could be ... werr lately recoverid by a form(er) title ... ?

Sounds good.
I haven't read all the previous posts, so didn't know 'livery' had come up before. (Getting to be many pages now).
Though wouldn't put it past him to itemise new underclothes!

[WillowG]

Willow reply #80. Incorrect Roman numerals for Elizabeth of York's father.
I made a similar mistake in a history exam at school.

Thanks, Maiden Stone, fixed it I remembered that Henry VIII's son was the sixth in the line, Edward VI, so I figured I'd just subtract one to get her father. Forgot that that of course would have been one of the Princes in the Tower, poor little mite.

My favourite portrait of the Princes in the Tower:
http://www.spookyisles.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/The-Two-Princes-Edward-and-Richard-in-the-Tower-1483-by-Sir-John-Everett-Millais-1878.jpg

Poor kids.

Phenomenal work as always, Bookbox!!! Thank you so much

Though wouldn't put it past him to itemise new underclothes!

I wouldn't have put it past him, either, goldie, lololol  Poor maidens, hermits, this guy had got it going on!

[horselydown86]

Snippet #37:

...by myne heires to preestis clerkis and pore folkes and ^dirigie^ masse to be said yerely at the day of the makinge

of the said dole and I will that all suche parsonnes as now be seasid or herafter shall fortune to be

seasid of the said ij manours of Bedworthe and Packynton and of all landis and tenementes in

Bedworthe and Pakyngton and other the premissz aforesaid shall stande and be seased to all

suche uses and Intentes as is afore declarid of the said ij Manours And I will that suche orisyons...


orisyons = orisons

[WillowG]

Actually, Edward IV, Elizabeth of York's father, had several illegitimate children that ended up in her household after she was grown. I seem to recall a Grace Plantagenet as well.

Elizabeth seemed very fond of them. She had lost no less than three brothers when her uncle Richard took the throne. The Princes in the Tower, Edward V and Richard of Shrewsbury, her full siblings, and Richard Grey, her half-brother, the full uncle of our testator.

Edward IV seem to have been another one of 'em lovable rascals. Elizabeth of course had been the apple of her father's eye until his death.

Speaking of lovable rascals, our Marquis #1: Even if Marquis #2 and the wife had been inclined to allow ex-mistress Lady Scrope into the fancy shmancy tomb they were all planning (and seemingly successfully built, going by the drawing below of the still extant effigy of Cecily Bonville, Marchioness of Dorset) they were probably afraid of setting a dangerous precendent. If they had let them all in there, the place probably would have started to look like an underground parking lot.

[WillowG]

Oh, thank you so much, HD!!! That is amazing!