samuel bartram

[Christine53]

I don't subscribe to ScotlandsPeople but there is a marriage for a Samuel Bartram and Lucy Woodhouse in 1878 in Anderston and one death for a Samuel Bartram in 1899 in Cambuslang.

A look at this marriage record should clarify the situation.

[joliz]

Hi , thanks for all your replies , im even more confused now , yeah i also thought lucys death was abt1878, but glasgow 

[philipsearching]

Probate for Lucy Bartram :

Death date 10 Nov 1878 at Willow Lane , Norwich, probate granted at Norwich to husband Samuel Bartram , tailor of 9 Lumsden Street, Old Dumbarton Road, Glasgow.

That doesn't make sense ! Samuel and Lucy Bartram are on the 1881 and 1891 census at Old Dumbarton Road , Glasgow 

It would make sense if Lucy 1 died in a carer's or relative's house in Norwich, then Samuel moved up to Scotland and married Lucy 2.

If the residents of Willow Lane, Norwich can be found on the 1881 census there might be a recognisable surname, or the death cert would give the name of the person reporting the death.

Philip

Philip

[louisa maud]

Pity there wasn't a number of Willow Lane and a particular area

Louisa Maud

[Christine53]

I decided to take a look at the Scottish marriage:

Samuel Bartram 37 tailor cutter , widower, father Samuel Bartram iron moulder (deceased )
of 9 Lumsden Street,Glasgow                    mother Margaret Bartram , maiden surname Douglas

Lucy Woodhouse 26                                  father Elias Woodhouse railway labourer
of same address                                       mother Sarah Woodhouse ( no maiden surname given )

married 30 Nov 1878 at 8 ? Street , Glasgow by Declaration in the presence of Charles O'Kelly tailor cutter

The death certificate states :

Samuel Bartram
married 1: Lucy Neve
married 2 : Lucy Woodhouse
 died 8 Dec 1899 at Cambuslang , parents given as in Marriage Certificate.
 Informant : Daisy Bartram , daughter , present at death.

[Christine53]

Samuel Bartram D Q 1841 Aylsham vol 13 page 11 mother's maiden Daglass ( from GRO website)

From the Norwich Bishop's Transcripts :

Samuel Bartram single man of this parish
Margaret Daglass single woman of this parish
married by banns 5 Aug 1833 in the Parish of Saxthorpe , Norfolk

[joliz]

Hi, wow thank you so much for your help
jo

[louisa maud]

There is a whole family tree on Ancestry if you are interested

Samuel's mother is on 1881 as a widow with a niece

Louisa Maud