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Re: can some one help find thompson family
« Reply #45 on: Tuesday 28 August 18 15:46 BST (UK) »
Heywood ancestry does not have a marriage for Elizabeth Wright and John Clare in 1880 or any year !! And I still can not find the family in 1881 anywhere on ancestry  sorry

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« Reply #46 on: Tuesday 28 August 18 16:24 BST (UK) »
No worries.
I don’t know if they married each other but they are on the same marriage page in the indexes

John Thomas Clare
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2DRK-FZV

Elizabeth Wright
https://www.familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/2DRP-9TG

1881
There isn’t a Florence but I am wondering if it is a mistake and she is recorded as Clara.
I said earlier, there is a birth for Flora Wright

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27C-56LJ

Here is the birth for Flora Wright
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2X4B-98P

And this is likely to be here in 1871 which causes more worry as she is boarding with a family
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VFFF-FNB

The trouble is the more you find the more complex it becomes.
The definite is that you have a Wright family living at the marriage address so hopefully the rest will follow  :-\
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Re: can some one help find thompson family
« Reply #47 on: Tuesday 28 August 18 16:34 BST (UK) »
Ok as I said I can not log onto familysearch on this tablet so I will do it tomorrow on my laptop and let you know the outcome

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Re: can some one help find thompson family
« Reply #48 on: Tuesday 28 August 18 16:53 BST (UK) »
Oh dear. You are signed in, aren’t you?

You can find the marriage in Free BMD and the censuses are easily found on Ancestry etc.

Just to add that in 1901 1582/136/57
 Elizabeth is now Elizabeth Roughton ‘married’ to George Roughton who is a boarder in 1891.

Free BMD shows a marriage March 1904, West Ham where George Roughton and Elizabeth Clare are on the same page.

1911 George and Elizabeth Roughton
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Re: can some one help find thompson family
« Reply #49 on: Tuesday 28 August 18 16:57 BST (UK) »
Thank again , I'm sure they are my family as you said same address as on marriage cert witnessed same , butvitcwould be nice to know who all the children's father was !!!

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« Reply #50 on: Tuesday 28 August 18 17:06 BST (UK) »
Just had another look at newspaper snippets

Elizabeth Clare, Walsoken

1884
John Thomas Clare striking his wife Elizabeth
1885
Assault by John on Elizabeth and she applied for a judicial separation
1885
Elizabeth fined for not sending her daughter Agnes to school
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« Reply #51 on: Tuesday 28 August 18 17:12 BST (UK) »
Walsoken ?? I will have to see if these is on ancestry , what paper was this in ??

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« Reply #52 on: Tuesday 28 August 18 17:17 BST (UK) »
I agree with Haywood that Florence/Flora is the Clara in the 1881 census, possibly an error by the enumerator. The census also shows Lilly aged 5 on the census but there is no birth recorded for Lilly, there is one at the right time for Lizzie Wright no mother’s maiden name in Wisbech.

Either the enumerator or whoever filled out the schedule made a mistake with the names.
CHOULES All ,  COKER Harwich Essex & Rochester Kent 
COLE Gt. Oakley, & Lt. Oakley, Essex.
DUNCAN Kent
EVERITT Colchester,  Dovercourt & Harwich Essex
GULLIVER/GULLOFER Fifehead Magdalen Dorset
HORSCROFT Kent.
KING Sturminster Newton, Dorset. MONK Odiham Ham.
SCOTT Wrabness, Essex
WILKINS Stour Provost, Dorset.
WICKHAM All in North Essex.
WICKHAM Medway Towns, Kent from 1880
WICKHAM, Ipswich, Suffolk.

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Re: can some one help find thompson family
« Reply #53 on: Tuesday 28 August 18 17:34 BST (UK) »
Florence can't be the Clara iv just found a birth for Carla Clare wisebeck 1871 no parents name given on ancestry