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Offline BamptonHatherleigh

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Re: Francis Bready Haydock
« Reply #45 on: Tuesday 04 September 18 18:28 BST (UK) »
Sometimes my head feels like its going to burst holding onto facts! I only have FindMyPast and Ancestry Uk subscriptions and i am not finding the 1871 census for Harriet on either!

Mine is and I have only tried to follow this thread  :)

Is this her - transcribed as such

1871 2125/90/48

Harriet Haylock   42 yrs wife of a Greenwich Pensioner
Mary Haylock 11 yrs
Berman Haylock   6 yrs
Thomas Haylock   3 yrs

THANK YOU!!! not only does my head implode but i get so cross withmyself for not being able t find what other find for me, especially on simple things like the Census!! Thats her with Mary, Norman ( who went to the states other thread quoted!) and thomas. I think I need a glass of wine to celebrate!
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Re: Francis Bready Haydock
« Reply #46 on: Tuesday 04 September 18 18:30 BST (UK) »
Sometimes my head feels like its going to burst holding onto facts! I only have FindMyPast and Ancestry Uk subscriptions and i am not finding the 1871 census for Harriet on either!

Mine is and I have only tried to follow this thread  :)

Is this her - transcribed as such

1871 2125/90/48

Harriet Haylock   42 yrs wife of a Greenwich Pensioner
Mary Haylock 11 yrs
Berman Haylock   6 yrs
Thomas Haylock   3 yrs

Relieved to know I'm not the only one.
I noticed a Byron among the children on the other thread. He and "Berman" may have been same boy. Perhaps Brian or Bernard, which are versions of same name.
Edit. I've just noticed he was Norman. I'm not concentrating. Long past time I gave up.
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Re: Francis Bready Haydock
« Reply #47 on: Tuesday 04 September 18 18:35 BST (UK) »
Sometimes my head feels like its going to burst holding onto facts! I only have FindMyPast and Ancestry Uk subscriptions and i am not finding the 1871 census for Harriet on either!

Mine is and I have only tried to follow this thread  :)

Is this her - transcribed as such

1871 2125/90/48

Harriet Haylock   42 yrs wife of a Greenwich Pensioner
Mary Haylock 11 yrs
Berman Haylock   6 yrs
Thomas Haylock   3 yrs

Relieved to know I'm not the only one.
I noticed a Byron among the children on the other thread. He and "Berman" may have been same boy. Perhaps Brian or Bernard, which are versions of same name.


I agree it may not be Byron ,its hard to read on the 1861 census, and he may perhaps have died young he was 7 in 1861 so older than Norman, but equally at 17 in 1871 he could be working away from home?
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Re: Francis Bready Haydock
« Reply #48 on: Tuesday 04 September 18 18:46 BST (UK) »
This is my offering which makes sense to me!

A Roger Haydock 24 (bc.1786) of Blackburn married Mary Wilkinson 19 8/4/1810 Blackburn.

Per Samlesbury records on Lancs OPC:

Samuel Haydock, bp.31/10/1813, son of Roger, weaver, and Mary.
Hannah Haydock, infant, buried 4/10/1815, dau. of Roger and Mary

Roger Haydock aged 32 buried 6/2/1818.

No remarriage or death for widow Mary Haydock.

I also cannot find a baptism for Francis Brady Haydock but as has already been suggested I think that Mary Haydock had Francis from a relationship with a Mr. Brady whom it would appear she was never married to.

In 1861 census she is shown as Mary Brady - however, her death is recorded at East Stonehouse (haven't found her in 1871 census) in Dec.qtr.1874 as Mary Haydock.

As has been suggested many times you need to purchase his 1849 marriage certificate to see what it says in 'fathers name'.   If he was indeed illegitimate, as is looking likely, he may have named his Brady father when he married (which would be a bonus).

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Re: Francis Bready Haydock
« Reply #49 on: Tuesday 04 September 18 18:46 BST (UK) »
Just to say that 1871 reads as Norman.
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« Reply #50 on: Tuesday 04 September 18 18:57 BST (UK) »
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Re: Francis Bready Haydock
« Reply #51 on: Tuesday 04 September 18 19:05 BST (UK) »
This is my offering which makes sense to me!

A Roger Haydock 24 (bc.1786) of Blackburn married Mary Wilkinson 19 8/4/1810 Blackburn.

Per Samlesbury records on Lancs OPC:

Samuel Haydock, bp.31/10/1813, son of Roger, weaver, and Mary.
Hannah Haydock, infant, buried 4/10/1815, dau. of Roger and Mary

Roger Haydock aged 32 buried 6/2/1818.

No remarriage or death for widow Mary Haydock.

I also cannot find a baptism for Francis Brady Haydock but as has already been suggested I think that Mary Haydock had Francis from a relationship with a Mr. Brady whom it would appear she was never married to.

In 1861 census she is shown as Mary Brady - however, her death is recorded at East Stonehouse (haven't found her in 1871 census) in Dec.qtr.1874 as Mary Haydock.

As has been suggested many times you need to purchase his 1849 marriage certificate to see what it says in 'fathers name'.   If he was indeed illegitimate, as is looking likely, he may have named his Brady father when he married (which would be a bonus).

Annette
As I said somewhere above I now have the parish record for their marriage, Church St Andrews Plymouth Oct 16th 1849
Francis Occ Corporal in Royal marines batchelor, his address HMS Impregnable father Henry Haydock Occ Engineer
Harriett Spinster her address 20 Cambridge st, I assume Plymouth, father Thomas Mills Pensioner
In the presence of Mary Ann Neale.. her sister, and I now believe Sara Davis the other witness is her other sister. So I know Francis father was shown as Henry on that record in 1849, so thanks, but dont think Roger belongs to me. I also saw that death in Stonehouse but am holding fire on claiming it until i am more certain.
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Re: Francis Bready Haydock
« Reply #52 on: Tuesday 04 September 18 19:14 BST (UK) »
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Think this Mary was married to a John - son Roger's baptism at RC church, Blackburn. b.1/4/1831, bp.3/4/1831.

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Re: Francis Bready Haydock
« Reply #53 on: Tuesday 04 September 18 19:18 BST (UK) »
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Think this Mary was married to a John - son Roger's baptism at RC church, Blackburn. b.1/4/1831, bp.3/4/1831.
Confused. I cant see a link to my Francis Bready Haydock, whose father is Henry and mother possibly Mary,

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