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Re: Will of Thomas Aylmer 1500
« Reply #18 on: Sunday 23 September 18 16:29 BST (UK) »
So sorry, HD, I overlooked the space before [?].

The mystery word looks like ob. I wonder if the sense is ... up to the su(m)me of v.li (= an expenditure ceiling of 5 pounds?). Just a guess.

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Re: Will of Thomas Aylmer 1500
« Reply #19 on: Sunday 23 September 18 16:32 BST (UK) »
Thanks - I also read it as a ceiling of 5 pounds.

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Re: Will of Thomas Aylmer 1500
« Reply #20 on: Sunday 23 September 18 16:50 BST (UK) »
Snippet #8 (#7 repeats #6)

You are of course entirely correct. How curious! So dreadfully sorry. I have now amended my post.

Thank you so much, HD and Bookbox! :) :D :)

Your back-and-forth was very fascinating! :)

deryge [?]

From Dirige – first word of the Office of the Dead (Dirige, Domine, Deus meus ... viam meam – Direct my path ... O Lord my God). Hence the English ‘dirge’.

I do so love these pre-reformatory wills. With their dirges and requiems :) Sometimes I think a little something was lost ...

* Barfoot - easy for him to say.

 ;D

;D ;D ;D

Alright, I might have had to opt out of the barefoot pre-reformatory pilgrimages. *coughs* *g*

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Re: Will of Thomas Aylmer 1500
« Reply #21 on: Sunday 23 September 18 17:33 BST (UK) »
Snippet #8:

...for to have for his Labo(ur) iijs iiijd Item I will have a

man to go on pilgrymage for me to seint Antony of

Caumbirston in Suxsex and I will that he hath ev(er)y

day for his Labo(ur) and his costes xijd It(e)m I bequeth to

Thom(a)s Sewall drap(er) vjs viijd It(e)m I will have an

other Trentall to be sunge for me and my ffrendes upon

a day in the Blake ffreres of norwich and they to have

x s It(e)m to Iche s(er)v(a)nt and Childe in my Brotheres house

xld It(e)m to Kat(er)ine Collys s(er)vant w(i)t(h) mastre Osbern

vjs viijd It(e)m to Joone [Bro(w)nn?] in the same place xld...



The place associated with seint Antony has 5 minims in the middle.  I'm not sure how to interpret them.


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Re: Will of Thomas Aylmer 1500
« Reply #22 on: Sunday 23 September 18 17:46 BST (UK) »
The place associated with seint Antony has 5 minims in the middle.  I'm not sure how to interpret them.

Me neither, but I found somewhere an online reference to the shrine of St Anthony of Cambirston, which is said to be Camber in Sussex, but now can't find it again.

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Re: Will of Thomas Aylmer 1500
« Reply #23 on: Sunday 23 September 18 17:52 BST (UK) »
Me neither, but I found somewhere an online reference to the shrine of St Anthony of Cambirston, which is said to be Camber in Sussex, but now can't find it again.

Thanks - that would give us Caumbirston, which is quite acceptable.

Is that related to Crawley, which was the only shrine to St Anthony in Sussex which I could find?

ADDED:

Sorry, dumb question - miles away.

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Re: Will of Thomas Aylmer 1500
« Reply #24 on: Sunday 23 September 18 19:17 BST (UK) »
Me neither, but I found somewhere an online reference to the shrine of St Anthony of Cambirston, which is said to be Camber in Sussex, but now can't find it again.

Thanks - that would give us Caumbirston, which is quite acceptable.

A reference here to Cambirston/Camber in 1490 ...
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=zeKoCwAAQBAJ&pg=PA49&lpg=PA49&dq=cambirston+camber&source=bl&ots=Su4a0xCWB5&sig=8X2cPnI74Viuyp1Z_-VSVq1ka2k&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjoxc2U0dHdAhWLC8AKHQixDuUQ6AEwAHoECAAQAQ#v=onepage&q=cambirston%20camber&f=false

Also, in Norman P. Tanner, The Church in Late Medieval Norwich, 1370-1532 (1984), referring to numerous small shrines popular with Norwich testators, including ‘St Anthony of Camber in Sussex’ (p. 86).

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Re: Will of Thomas Aylmer 1500
« Reply #25 on: Sunday 23 September 18 19:33 BST (UK) »
Excellent, thank you.  I shall update my text with Caumbirston.

ADDED:

Willow, I have also changed the label on the first Snippet #8 to Snippet #7 and added the [ob?].

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Re: Will of Thomas Aylmer 1500
« Reply #26 on: Sunday 23 September 18 20:39 BST (UK) »
Thank you so much HD and and Bookbox!!! :) :D :) This was wonderful!

So fascinating about St. Anthony of Caumbirston!

And all those pilgrimages! How many sins had this guy committed? *g*

Of course, we are all sinners 😇 ;D 😇 *coughs*

Snippet #8:

It(e)m to Iche s(er)v(a)nt and Childe in my Brotheres house xld

... This is the first mentions of this brother, right? *sigh* These people ...  :-\ Honestly.

The place associated with seint Antony has 5 minims in the middle.  I'm not sure how to interpret them.
Excellent, thank you.  I shall update my text with Caumbirston.

ADDED:

Willow, I have also changed the label on the first Snippet #8 to Snippet #7 and added the [ob?].

Excellent, HD! :) :) :) I still have no idea how I managed that ...  ::)