William Williams born 1836 Acton Burnell emigrated 1856

[josey]

Yes thanks I have his death

Just checking you have read the William's death notice found by minnehaha in reply #8? This confirms age of 79 at death not 64 & much more in keeping with death caused by senile decay. 

[josey]

I don't think the one Josey posted is correct, the names are not quite right.

I was thinking along the lines that maybe William had been married in England before he emigrated at the age of 34/35.

If William who married Elizabeth Hunmphreys/Humphries had father John then definitely ruled out, thanks William. But not impossible that William Williams left a family behind. But 1851 in Chatwall a good find.

I need to check them out 30 years of child bearing and one before they married.?

And again just wondering - the Elizabeth listed born to Thomas & Mary in 1840 has been found on subsequent censuses, so Elizabeths born 1840 & 1842 may be grandchildren of Thomas & Mary's 

PS Can I check that (reg) means found in the parish register? Thanks.

[Gadget]

The only Williams baptism to Thomas and Mary in Berrington in 1836 is Elizabeth - 3rd January.

Did this one die or ??

[josey]

She is listed above as being found on 1851 & 1871 censuses.

[minniehaha]

A little more.......

Death:
1880/2291   Williams   Ethel Marion   10W

Death notice:

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/GLOBE18800817.2.7?end_date=31-12-1880&query=william+williams&start_date=01-01-1880&title=AMBPA%2CAG%2CEG%2CGLOBE%2CLT%2CNCGAZ%2COO%2CCHP%2CSCANT%2CTS%2CSUNCH%2CTEML%2CTHD%2CWDA

Minniehaha.

[Gadget]

So this one in the OP's first post

1836 Jan 3 Williams – male, Berrington, Shropshire, Eng.

Was actually the Elizabeth that I found  or a male twin.

Gadget

[josey]

Looking at family search, it appears that there were several couples Thomas & Mary baptising children during this time; I find it very difficult to confirm which couple but perhaps the parish registers are indicated by (reg) & occupation & residence have been confirmed for all these children listed. I am hoping Bronwen can post census refs for 1841, 1851 for her Thomas & Mary.

[minniehaha]

Death:

1950/29908   Williams   Harold Herbert   78Y


WW1 file:

https://www.archway.archives.govt.nz/ViewFullItem.do?code=22019759&digital=yes

Marriage:

1911/6600   Rose   Somes   Harold Herbert   Williams

Birth of one child found:

1912/13560   Williams   Ngaire Evelyn Gladys   Rose   Harold Herbert

Her marriage:

1935/6769   Ngaire Evelyn Gladys   Williams   Kevin Ferrigan   O'Brien

Her death:

2005/10072   O'Brien   Ngaire Evelyn Gladys   5 July 1912


Minniehaha.

[Gadget]

The baptism of Elizabeth to a Thomas and Mary Williams in Berrington on 3rd January 1836, shows Thomas to be a labourer and they're living at Cantlop.

There are no other baptisms to a Thomas and Mary Williams there on that day. I'm not at all sure where the unnamed male baptism came from as it's not in the parish records. If it's from Family Search, it could be a Patron submission, which have never been reliable.

Perhaps Bronwen could give us the sources of her information.


Gadget