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Thomas Roper.
« on: Tuesday 30 October 18 06:52 GMT (UK) »
Hi Everyone,
                    I have asked for help before about our Thomas Roper. I initially received some good advice........this was some time ago, but now THINGS have come to light and i must ask for your guidance again.
By the way, i tried to look for the original messages, but can't see to find them?
I know i was told that Thomas Roper was born 3rd of March 1899, Brisbane and his parents were James and Anna Roper nee Pook. After receiving this information i checked his World War 1+2 Records and it all corresponded to your information. As recorded in the Army Records, both parents were dead by the time of his enlistment in the 1st World War......and his next of kin is reported to be his Aunt, Mrs. Elizabeth Roberts of Moggil, Queensland.
After finding out this information, i let be for quite a while, and now have decided to get Thomas's  Father, James Roper's Death Certificate. James died in 1904, Toowoomba, Queensland. This should make his son Thomas 5ys old. I actually did this just to confirm Thomas's family.
Upon arrival of the Death Certificate, i'm afraid to say, there were no Children, and no mention of  a son called Thomas Roper.
The persons making the information is listed as Dr. Robert S. Goodsell and widow, Ann Roper.
Does this mean that perhaps we are looking at an adoption?
Why can't THINGS just be easy?????
Many thanks for your thoughts...........Cinny of Melbourne.

Ps. I can send you the Death Certificate if you require it?

 

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Re: Thomas Roper.
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 30 October 18 06:59 GMT (UK) »
Here is the link to the earlier thread

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=718882.9

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Re: Thomas Roper.
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 30 October 18 06:59 GMT (UK) »
Atkinson; Badier; Cameron; Grant; Howie; Jardine; Jenkins; Kerr; Lawardorn; Lee; Linton; Lonie; McConnell; Morgan; Morrison; Murphy; O'Leary; Paton; Pratt; Robb; Williams

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Re: Thomas Roper.
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 30 October 18 07:09 GMT (UK) »
Why not get his mother’s death certificate?

1915   B21313 Ann Roper parents John Pook and Ann Bennett

Birth of Elizabeth:

1868   B8206 Elizabeth Pook parents John and Ann Bennet

Marriages:

1894   C1705 James Roper to Ann Pook

1894   C1717 Elizabeth Pook to Samuel Roberts

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Re: Thomas Roper.
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 30 October 18 07:14 GMT (UK) »
Hi Jamjar, Do you think by getting his Mother's Death Certificate it would state that he was their son? I guess there would be a CHANCE, but surly, it should be on his Fathers? Cinny22

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Re: Thomas Roper.
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 30 October 18 07:20 GMT (UK) »
Not if he was born out of wedlock and just took her married name.

If he isn’t on hers then you know they aren’t his parents.

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Re: Thomas Roper.
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 30 October 18 07:29 GMT (UK) »
No mention of a son in her death notice and she is buried alone.

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Re: Thomas Roper.
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 30 October 18 07:31 GMT (UK) »
Oh, dear.........it doesn't look good! Cinny22

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Re: Thomas Roper.
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 30 October 18 07:35 GMT (UK) »
Ann’s marriage announcement: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article181827676

There aren’t any children born to this couple, on QLDBDM.

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