Joseph and Thomas Love, were they brothers?

[mckha489]

19 June 1835 - Essex Standard

Connection with a William Love

[mckha489]

There’s a Job Love breaching the peace at Gt Coggleshall in 1838

In 1834, age 8. Job was whipped, for larceny

Several other appearances for Joseph, he was sentenced to  6 mths hard labour one time, and two months another.

[Rosinish]

The 1857 is right for Mary Ann but not sure about her birth date or place.

What info. is given about her on the census, age/yob & where born?

Annie

[Rosinish]

There’s a Job Love breaching the peace at Gt Coggleshall in 183

183...have we to guess which yr in the 1830s 

Annie

[solidrock]

The 1857 is right for Mary Ann but not sure about her birth date or place.

What info. is given about her on the census, age/yob & where born?

Annie

Mary Ann Love Wife F 29 Halstead, Essex.   Birth Year (Estimated):   1842.

[mckha489]

There’s a Job Love breaching the peace at Gt Coggleshall in 183

183...have we to guess which yr in the 1830s 

Annie

Fixed it 😀

Job is in 1841 with likely mother Eliz. a washerwoman age 60. Born in county
R.t 20 blacksmith,  Emma, Eliza, Job, blacksmith all recorded as 15 and patience 13
Girls all Tamborines (that’s what it looks like)

All born in county

Approx 40 years between Eliz and Rt (Robert?) which would allow for Joseph and Thomas to slot in above

[Jamjar]

Name:    Joseph Love
Aliases:    none
Gender:    m
Date of Birth:    1818
Occupation:    Saddler
Date of Death:    1883
Age:    65 years
Crime:    Steeling oranges
Convicted at:    Essex Quarter Session
Sentence term:    14 years
Ship:    Henry Porcher
Departure date:    1st August, 1836
Arrival date:    15th November, 1836
Place of arrival    Van Diemen's Land
Passenger manifest    Travelled with 261 other convicts

Name:    Thomas Love
Aliases:    none
Gender:    m
Date of Birth:    1818
Occupation:    Silk weaver
Crime:    Stealing a watch
Convicted at:    Essex Quarter Session
Sentence term:    12 years
Ship:    Henry Porcher
Departure date:    1st August, 1836
Arrival date:    15th November, 1836
Place of arrival    Van Diemen's Land
Passenger manifest    Travelled with 261 other convicts

Is this from the official government website, as it is incorrect?

I was just looking at the had written image and Thomas was sentenced to 7 years which was extended due to offences during his time and he was a free man in 1844.

The last entry for Joseph was 12-9-1846 and given his 14 year sentence and his extra time given for further crimes committed, I can’t see him being in England in 1851, unless he absconded.

Jamjar

Has Joseph here with ticket of leave, half way down second column:

http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article66020605

Jamjar

[majm]

Jamjar,      I think that's possibly a copy/paste of a transcription or two  from a Queensland website,  https://convictrecords.com.au/

JM

[Jamjar]

Joseph Love gardener, second column:

http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article66270616

Jamjar