Joseph and Thomas Love, were they brothers?

[majm]

I am wondering how Joseph funded his passage back to England...  It would have been about a three or four month voyage, and for him to be back in time for the 1851 census, afterall he had a 14 year sentence imposed.   

JM

[Rosinish]

I am wondering how Joseph funded his passage back to England...  It would have been about a three or four month voyage, and for him to be back in time for the 1851 census, afterall he had a 14 year sentence imposed.   

JM, would a Saddle Maker not have earned a good living, may have had £ in the bank which would have earned a lot of interest over 14 yrs?

Annie

[mckha489]

But if he was a gardener in 1845, he wasn’t always working as a Sadler.

Did people ever work a passage back?

[mckha489]

Not sure if Joseph married in Tasmania or not but he did go back to England and this maybe him on the 1851 census in  Halstead, Essex with wife Elizabeth, Page Number 1
Registration Number HO107  Piece/Folio 1784 / 216. 

What are the details for Elizabeth on the census, age/yob & where born?

Are they alone or in the household of someone else?

Annie

In household on own.

1 Parsons Lane,   Halstead
Joseph LOVE Mar, 36, Saddler b Liverpool
Elizabeth LOVE Wife, 28, b Norwich

[majm]

He was a convict, assigned to a settler, so he would not have had much opportunity to earn a private income.

JM

[solidrock]

Not sure if Joseph married in Tasmania or not but he did go back to England and this maybe him on the 1851 census in  Halstead, Essex with wife Elizabeth, Page Number 1
Registration Number HO107  Piece/Folio 1784 / 216. 

What are the details for Elizabeth on the census, age/yob & where born?

Are they alone or in the household of someone else?

Annie

On the 1851 census Parsons Lane, Halstead, Essex, there is just Joseph and Elizabeth alone. Elizabeth born Norwich c1823. Joseph born Liverpool c1815.

[Rosinish]

Did people ever work a passage back?

Interesting question Mckha & something at the back of my mind tells me I've read about that somewhere at sometime although I can't recall where or how I came across it 

Annie

[solidrock]

Leaving the Colony
Convicts could leave the colonies after their sentences were completed or after being granted an Absolute Pardon. Departures were announced in the Sydney Gazette's 'Notice of Intent' column. Some went to work on trading, whaling and fishing vessels while others returned to England. Those released on Conditional Pardons were not allowed to return to England or Ireland.

http://members.iinet.net.au/~perthdps/convicts/res-11.html

[majm]

The Sydney Gazette https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/title/3

Sydney Gazette ceased in 1842, but Tasmania (Van Diemen's Land) was administered separately from New South Wales from the mid 1820s... 

ADD  (from the perth dps site that solidrock has posted)

Certificate of Freedom
Certificates of Freedom (CF) were introduced in 1810 and issued to convicts at the completion of their sentence. Records usually note date, name, ship, year of arrival, when tried and sentence. Certificate of Freedom Butts from 1827 to 1867 also give native place, calling, year of birth, physical description and sometimes TOL information. Once again, the SAONSW holds copies and indexes of these records.

Tasmanian and Western Australian convicts also qualified for the various forms of pardons and records are available in Tasmania and Western Australia.


JM