Royal Dublin Fusiliers - Around 1911

[ShaunJ]

Clerk would have been his occupation before he enlisted.

I wondered about that. It's very strange that every soldier on that census page, and the previous page , and most of the following page, is either a baker, a butcher, or a clerk. So either some army clerk was making it up or it was a very specialised catering and clerical branch of the ASC.

Michael was a labourer when he signed up for the militia in 1903.

[Jobbru]

Have you got his marriage cert?
Does it say if his father is living or not?
Did he marry in Ireland?

Have you got his marriage cert?
Does it say if his father is living or not?
Did he marry in Ireland?

Yes, I found his marriage cert online yesterday. He was married in Dublin in 1929 to his first wife, Bridget Satelle, a widow. Michael has his father down as also been called Michael and his occupation being a clerk. Doesn’t mention if his father is alive or not.

[heywood]

This person fits with the record you have posted. Are you sure this is him?

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Dublin/North_Dock/Lower_North_Cumberland_St_/1329136/

[Jobbru]

This person fits with the record you have posted. Are you sure this is him?

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Dublin/North_Dock/Lower_North_Cumberland_St_/1329136/

Oh I’ve seen that one too! I ruled it out and for the life of me I can’t remember why? I think I might of just got into an overload of information that was starting to confuse me!

Actually, on the findmypast site, where it shows his next of kin, I couldn’t work out the persons first name and then I thought it might be Tessie, which could be short for Theresa - Teresa in the case of the above census!

Also, when you click into that census it looks more like the woman is 40 and not 20.

Edit to add:

I recounted my steps with that census and I find that lady Teresa with her James O’Brien and the kid Michael born on the 19th of June 1887.

First, the fathers name is wrong and going by the findmypast site, when Michael signed up in 1904 he was 17 years and 3 months old, which would make his birthday be in December 1886.

... hope I’ve added that up right!

[heywood]

Yes the age is wrong. She is 60 in 1911 but ages are not that reliable.
I thought Jessie at first but then Tessie and the address is correct.
Did your Michael have any siblings?

[Sinann]

There is a Michael O'Brien born 19 June 1887 to a Teresa Blake but his father is James O'Brien

[Jobbru]

There is a Michael O'Brien born 19 June 1887 to a Teresa Blake but his father is James O'Brien

I think my Michaels birth is in December 1886 just by when he signed up he was 17 and 3 moths old.

Sorry Haywood I couldn’t tell you if he’s any siblings.

The only other bit of information I have about him is either he or his father at some stage was a reporter for the Irish Times. Now I’m not sure how true that is because it’s been mentioned like a footnote or an after thought.. like you’d think that would be bigger news? I did search for him there but no joy.

[heywood]

There is a baptism for Michael Francis O’Brien
Born 19th June 1883
Baptised 22nd June 1883
St Mary's (Pro-Cathedral)
Address 19 Bolton St
Father:   Michael O'Brien
Mother:   Julia Murphy

I can’t see a birth registration.

There is this marriage
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1881/10991/8018808.pdf
Michael O’Brien and Julia Byrne. Michael is a Printer

Earlier, when I was trying to find the record you posted I saw a Michael who was a Printer, I think so will have another look.

[heywood]

There is this Ancestry record

Michael O’Brien 28yrs in 1914 a Printer
Royal Dublin Fusiliers no. 12759
N.o.k. Brother John address Dorset Street

I don’t think it mentions  a middle name,
 Though and there is a marriage in 1893 to Rosanna Doherty and a son William in 1902.

Seems unlikely, I think