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Re: James Barr and Margaret McTernan Marriage
« Reply #18 on: Saturday 08 December 18 17:10 GMT (UK) »
Death for Margaret McTeirnan or Barr (SP)

BARR MARGARET 69
1966
685/4 10 St Giles

Thanks-I should have guessed it was that!



Where is that record located?

Sorry (SP) www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk

When I download certs. from SP, I always use jpeg as I find pdf hard to work with for all sorts of reasons such as cropping etc.

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Re: James Barr and Margaret McTernan Marriage
« Reply #19 on: Saturday 08 December 18 17:20 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Monica  :D

So aged 26 b c 1892 & from the info. earlier of him dying young this may be him?

(SP Index)

BARR JAMES 29
1922
685/5 355 George Square (Edinburgh)

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Annie,
I got very excited, as this James Barr died from a result of an injury sustained as a coal miner! But sadly, after I'd seen the document, he is listed as married to someone else!
I don't suppose he divorced and remarried in a short space of time...


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Re: James Barr and Margaret McTernan Marriage
« Reply #20 on: Saturday 08 December 18 18:52 GMT (UK) »
Sorry this was not the correct James.

I didn't see anything for Lasswade (where they married).

Does your aunt know roughly how old 'young' was?

The next youngest (using his c birth yr) is;

BARR JAMES 55
1947
685/6 715 Newington

Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

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Re: James Barr and Margaret McTernan Marriage
« Reply #21 on: Saturday 08 December 18 21:18 GMT (UK) »
BARR JAMES 29
1922
685/5 355 George Square (Edinburgh)

Annie,
I got very excited, as this James Barr died from a result of an injury sustained as a coal miner! But sadly, after I'd seen the document, he is listed as married to someone else!
I don't suppose he divorced and remarried in a short space of time...

Actually,

Who was the informant & was his wife's name given as Margaret with a different surname as the informant may have got her surname wrong...just a thought?

Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"


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Re: James Barr and Margaret McTernan Marriage
« Reply #22 on: Saturday 08 December 18 21:41 GMT (UK) »
I found a James Barr with age a bit out (not unusual), only 1 in the Lothian Districts

1911

BARR JAMES 16 (b c1895)
692/1 17/ 14
Leith North, Midlothian

Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"

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Re: James Barr and Margaret McTernan Marriage
« Reply #23 on: Saturday 08 December 18 21:48 GMT (UK) »
The James on the 1911 is with a family

Hugh 57
Christine 53
James 16
Jane 9

Annie

Add, same family 1901 (Jane not yet born)

BARR HUGH 42
692/1 12/A 59 Leith North, Midlothian
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"

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Re: James Barr and Margaret McTernan Marriage
« Reply #24 on: Saturday 08 December 18 21:50 GMT (UK) »
WB, you are familiar with the valuation rolls from what you have mentioned.

Just looking at the elector rolls for 1914-15 and the valuation rolls. Owner and tenants at 32 Melville Street show as:

George Macallan - Proprietor Occupier of both 32 and 34 Melville Street (he shows as a Hotel Keeper)
Andrew Cavaye - Tenant Occupier, a Cask Maker
Claude Niven Marshall - Joint Tenant Occupier, a stockbroker (from Electoral Rolls)

It is interesting that your g grandfather was born at this address that potentially mother Margaret worked at. As has been mentioned, you would have thought her employers would have sent her elsewhere for the birth.

Monica

 

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Re: James Barr and Margaret McTernan Marriage
« Reply #25 on: Saturday 08 December 18 22:22 GMT (UK) »
As Annie has mentioned, in respect of Margaret McTiernan, I can only see the two surnames for her death reg in 1966. Are we right to think she did not remarry after the death of James?

Did James and Margaret have children after they married on 31 Dec 1918?

Do you know any of the addresses/areas that James and Margaret (and your grandfather James B) lived in post marriage?

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Re: James Barr and Margaret McTernan Marriage
« Reply #26 on: Saturday 08 December 18 22:36 GMT (UK) »
BARR JAMES 29
1922
685/5 355 George Square (Edinburgh)

Annie,
I got very excited, as this James Barr died from a result of an injury sustained as a coal miner! But sadly, after I'd seen the document, he is listed as married to someone else!
I don't suppose he divorced and remarried in a short space of time...

Actually,

Who was the informant & was his wife's name given as Margaret with a different surname as the informant may have got her surname wrong...just a thought?

Annie

Informant was John Barr, Father, but wife is Annie Smith, so no confusion there.