Burial record address

[BushInn1746]

Hello

Justices report, that the highway called Gravel Lane lying between the parishes of St Saviour Southwark and Christ Church, both within the weekly Bills of Mortality, was fit to be paved
1739
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/dcb66421-fab3-4090-8483-017b3a12edf0


Middlesex is on the Northern side and SURREY is on the Southern side of the River Thames, according to a plaque on the Bridge over The Thames.

Mark

[BushInn1746]

Hello

Justices report, that the highway called Gravel Lane lying between the parishes of St Saviour Southwark and Christ Church, both within the weekly Bills of Mortality, was fit to be paved
1739
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/dcb66421-fab3-4090-8483-017b3a12edf0


Middlesex is on the Northern side and SURREY is on the Southern side of the River Thames, according to a plaque on the Bridge over The Thames.

Mark

Southwark, the Parish and Gravel Lane, are on the South side of The Thames.

Can the Poster give us the Cemetery / Burial Register name, please?

Although that might not always help.

Mark

ADDED: The Gravel Lane, London, of today is North side of Thames and must be another.
We can rule this out. Not in Southwark ...
Gravel Lane, Whitechapel London, E1 7AW

[BushInn1746]

Justices report, that the highway called Gravel Lane lying between the parishes of St Saviour Southwark and Christ Church, both within the weekly Bills of Mortality, was fit to be paved
1739
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/dcb66421-fab3-4090-8483-017b3a12edf0

Gravel Lane, Southwark (left side of map, running top to bottom more or less)

On the South side of The Thames, click on link and click on map and left click on the map to + (enlarge).

Map is/was for Sale

https://picclick.co.uk/Antique-maps-Parishes-of-St-Saviours-Southwark-and-182149143915.html

Mark

[estiman]

Hi all. Thanks everyone for all the inputs. it does, indeed, look like it may be Gravel Lane (unless some-one comes up with an alternative?).

Burial Record is for St James-the-Less Bethnal Green:

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interactive/1559/31281_A100675-00039?pid=443479&backurl=https://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv%3D1%26dbid%3D1559%26h%3D443479%26tid%3D%26pid%3D%26usePUB%3Dtrue%26_phsrc%3DgHy1025%26_phstart%3DsuccessSource&treeid=&personid=&hintid=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=gHy1025&_phstart=successSource&usePUBJs=true

First entry at the top. Name Hannah Wadmore (Ancestry transcribed as Weidmore). There are several other entries from Southwark - there was a cholera outbreak, which may be relevant.

Last confirmed address for Hannah was in King Street (next to St George's workhouse), which places her south-south-east of Holland Street. Her relatives are located to the west of her, near Blackfriars.

Thanks for the references, Mark - in particular the first one from Glasgow University re sculpture location in Gravel Lane in 1851. When I looked at the link there was the option to view on the map, but all I got was a blank rectangle    This may be because of my antiquated PC (and I mean antiquated - I still use XP!!!)  Now when I try your link it seems to want me to log in. If that map link were to work that would solve the location problem for Gravel Lane.

PS I have asked if some-one from the conservation team at the LMA might be willing to look and give an interpretation (without responsibility for the interpretation). Would be a nice Christmas present but not very hopeful.
Ray

[stanmapstone]

Possibly although re-named it was still popularly known by the old name? It certainly appears as Holland Street on maps of the 1860's.

From the South London Chronicle - Saturday 02 July 1898

In that case, where was it?  All the searches I've done indicate that the name was changed to Holland Street.

You can see Gravel Lane on the 1872 map at https://maps.nls.uk/view/103313045#zoom=6&lat=9758&lon=5783&layers=BT

Now Great Suffolk Street.
Stan

[estiman]

Interesting one, Mark. I couldn't see a date but obviously, as it says, it's old.  Don't think I want to rush out and buy it for £200!!!  Difficult to relate it to mid 19th century (I use the Motco cd of Stanford's map as a first port of call). However, if this Gravel Lane survived into the 19th c, then it doesn't correspond to the location of Holland Street. It'd be great if the 1851 Glasgow University reference for Gravel Lane could be viewed on their map - right name, right period.

Ray

[estiman]

Hadn't seen yours before my last post. That seems to solve it! Gravel Lane is the continuation of Holland Street, going southwards, which also brings it in close proximity to her relatives. Good one, Stan. Thanks

I just hope that everyone agrees that the almost illegible address is, in fact, Gravel Lane, for it certainly looks like it

Thank you everyone 

[BushInn1746]

Hello

There were Alms Houses in Gravel Lane, perhaps the sick were taken there, or your ancestors had moved?

A person does not always die at their residence.

I'm quite confident the addresses are Gravel Lane, Southwark. Definitely beginning G r (that is definitely a small r in old hand)

The letter a in effect is formed of the curly part and the straight stick almost in two parts, the v in one is almost rounded, but in the other one definitely open at the top, giving Grav and I can just make out el.

Look at the a in Hannah and I agree I could see the surname beginning Wad --- I changed it shortly after posting last night, once I have worked out the letter a was in effect formed almost in two halves (unjoined at top, seen this before for a). [Added, the transcriber made the letter a two letters, because a was unjoined at the top, but it is a]

I could see Gravel Lane, Southwark early on and after the letter analysis of all images, I believe it to be that and the map shows Gravel Lane, forms the boundary of Southwark (spelt South Wark on the old map extract posted) and Christ Church, exactly as the quote when it was fit to be paved in 1739.

My 19th Century links tie up too.

Mark

[JenB]

Possibly although re-named it was still popularly known by the old name? It certainly appears as Holland Street on maps of the 1860's.

From the South London Chronicle - Saturday 02 July 1898

In that case, where was it?  All the searches I've done indicate that the name was changed to Holland Street.

You can see Gravel Lane on the 1872 map at https://maps.nls.uk/view/103313045#zoom=6&lat=9758&lon=5783&layers=BT

Now Great Suffolk Street.
Stan

Thanks Stan. Following Gravel Lane northwards it becomes Holland Street, which I mentioned in my first post on this topic, so it is clearly a continuation of the Gravel Lane shown on the plan I linked to.