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Help to decipher this record?!
« on: Friday 21 December 18 00:29 GMT (UK) »
Can anyone help to decipher this record?

I know the parents are Alexander Hay and Agnes Downie and the daughter Elisabeth was born in Birkenshaw, North Lanarkshire. But I can’t make out the first part(nearest the bottom left hand corner of the page), it starts with “By...”

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Re: Help to decipher this record?!
« Reply #1 on: Friday 21 December 18 07:20 GMT (UK) »
Could it start with -By the omission of the ?  :-\
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Added - I see that the page was actually 1795 so maybe the baptism was added at a later date

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Re: Help to decipher this record?!
« Reply #2 on: Friday 21 December 18 07:42 GMT (UK) »
Agree with Kay. Also,  could the next word be March  <something>

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Re: Help to decipher this record?!
« Reply #3 on: Friday 21 December 18 19:41 GMT (UK) »
By ommission of th[e] [  ] Parents

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Re: Help to decipher this record?!
« Reply #4 on: Friday 21 December 18 19:54 GMT (UK) »
Don't know if this helps, but I pushed the words apart to make them easier to see.
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Re: Help to decipher this record?!
« Reply #5 on: Friday 21 December 18 20:59 GMT (UK) »
By ommission of th[e] [  ] Parents

I've just looked at it in more detail and see that the long S in omission is extending into the word below so, excluding that letter, I also think it's Parents.

Add - also the first th/the could relate to the date line - 28th or 20th. The transcript on SP and FS has the date as 28th
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Re: Help to decipher this record?!
« Reply #6 on: Friday 21 December 18 22:02 GMT (UK) »
I'm not familiar with Scottish records but I'm pretty sure that parents were not responsible for putting entries into Parish records, so why blame them for the omission? I think it is more likely to be a name or title of the Church official but I can offer no suggestions  :(

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Re: Help to decipher this record?!
« Reply #7 on: Friday 21 December 18 22:22 GMT (UK) »
It is unusual but it could be that the parents moved in the intervening 2 years, maybe:

Here's a snip with the tail of long s removed.

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Re: Help to decipher this record?!
« Reply #8 on: Friday 21 December 18 22:58 GMT (UK) »
I agree that the first th goes with the date. The rest is "By ommission of th[e] Parents"

Baptisms usually took place in peoples houses and the Session Clerk (usually the parish schoolmaster) would not attend with the register. Occasionally the minister kept a notebook with rough details, which were then written up in the register, but usually fathers went to the Clerk to have entries made. Not everyone bothered. About 1784 (if I remember correctly) a 3d tax was introduced on the registration of baptisms, so that might also induce amnesia. It is quite common to find the baptisms of several children from a family  entered together, the previous unrecorded ones being entered along with the latest one. In 1854 especially, the year before statutory registration began, parish registers often contain groups of baptisms which had not been recorded at the proper time