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Re: Sarah Smith
« Reply #144 on: Thursday 28 March 19 06:45 GMT (UK) »
 :)  Have you sorted how Charles LEWIS's nephew (Thomas BOYD) is noted as son of William SMITH ...   
 :) I am still doubting that that Charles is actually your  Joseph's father.... 1860s ... so a decade or more after the gold rushes started ... so many people rushed from around the world,  and of course back in 1849,  so many rushed from NSW to California ....
 ... no sign of Joseph's mum from 1832 .... gone ....
 :) quit the marriage
 :) quit the colony leaving her son behind
 :) became known by another name
 :) died and buried and no extant record found

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Re: Sarah Smith
« Reply #145 on: Thursday 28 March 19 06:47 GMT (UK) »
Unfortunately all I have is the info sent to me by the Family History Soc. Lake Macquarie.
This stated that Thomas and William were the sons of William Boyd and Elizabeth Lewis

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Re: Sarah Smith
« Reply #146 on: Thursday 28 March 19 06:53 GMT (UK) »
I have sent another email to the family history society re Charles Lewis and Elizabeth Boyd so I am hoping to get some more information from them.

I am leaning towards Mary Ann Smith marrying Charles Lewis and George Mulhall.
There are so many connections.
This is why I am thinking Charles was alone with no family except Thomas Boyd.

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« Reply #147 on: Thursday 28 March 19 06:57 GMT (UK) »
I have Charles Lewis D.C. unfortunately not much info. states he was a baker, age 66, born London,  no father, no mother, no marriage,  but I gather this would have been the case as the informant was the coroner, and it appears the nephew did not hang around.
Charles was buried at Camperdown Cemetery 20th Mar 1863.
I have the burial butt, which is incorrect,  Charles was described as a sailor, residence Circular Quay, age 50?
I can understand how he was described as a sailor, being the fact that he was on the Maid of The Lake,  and a sailors home was just over the road from the dead house, the age was probably hard to guess after a stroke, and we don't know long the body was kept before it was looked at? (no refrigeration) oh doesn't bear thinking about, the smell.
Very sad looks as if no one cared for this fellow?

The captain of the schooner was a Thomas Boyd, he was born in 1832 at Sydney, the son of William Smith and Elizabeth Lewis.  Thomas died Aug. 1903 at Newcastle Hospital of a stroke, he was buried 2 days later at Belmont CoE Cemetery.
There is a possibility that this Elizabeth was a sister to Charles?  but that still doesn't explain why he was in Newcastle, no Mary, no Joseph,  this is why I thought he may have reoffended and been sent to Newcastle? Mary may have married George Mulhall?  but then what happened to Joseph Lewis , Mary and Charles's son? lots of speculation?

Sorry I had understood this SMITH was from the historian at Lake Macquarie.....

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Unfortunately all I have is the info sent to me by the Family History Soc. Lake Macquarie.
This stated that Thomas and William were the sons of William Boyd and Elizabeth Lewis
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Re: Sarah Smith
« Reply #148 on: Thursday 28 March 19 08:07 GMT (UK) »
Here is cutting for Thomas BOYD's brother's death
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/136110532 Newcastle Herald 31 Oct 1905

NSWBDM online deaths index has
1903, Thomas BOYD parents as William and Elizabeth #10961
1905, William BOYD parents as William and Elizabeth #  13536

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Yes,  the BOYD family were involved in shipping,  but who was William SMITH ... 

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Do you have either of those two chaps NSW BDM death registrations?  if so, from those records, what information did the informant provide about each one's places of birth, mother, father, etc...

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Re: Sarah Smith
« Reply #149 on: Thursday 28 March 19 08:21 GMT (UK) »
So you are considering the following marriage ...

211/1835
V1835 211 129
George MULHALL married Mary A SMITH, district displayed as LD.   LD is the code for a marriage record found in the parish registers for St Mary's Cathedral, Sydney, and is for Roman Catholic marriages.  He would perhaps be the famous Mossman's Jack, a rower, on Sydney Harbour.

Have you checked NSW BDM online index to consider if Mary MULHALL's death registration has parents names displayed there.... if they do, perhaps it would be worthwhile for you to consider seeking her death cert, as your Joseph LEWIS should be listed as her son there for your thoughts to have some independent documentary support. :D

ADD,  the 1830 Charles LEWIS marriage is indexed as CJ,  ie Church of England, St James, Sydney.

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Re: Sarah Smith
« Reply #150 on: Thursday 28 March 19 09:33 GMT (UK) »
I have Mary Mulhall d.c. states female, Prospect, age 75, no mother, father James,
Children George, Patrick, William, Sarah.
Informant, son George.

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« Reply #151 on: Thursday 28 March 19 09:36 GMT (UK) »
I also have William Reid-Mulhall marriage cert to Elizabeth Smith, Mary's youngest sister, they were married COE, so looks like they didn't bother too much re religion?

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« Reply #152 on: Thursday 28 March 19 09:41 GMT (UK) »
William Smith Boyd, the father of Thomas and William Boyd, for some reason used his fathers surname Matthew Boyd and his mothers surname Elizabeth Smith.