Author Topic: Ethel Norman married William H. Ledster in Swansea 1919.  (Read 2177 times)

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Re: Ethel Norman married William H. Ledster in Swansea 1919.
« Reply #9 on: Friday 21 December 18 16:47 GMT (UK) »
William remarried in Swansea to Annie Williams (nee Davies) in Mar 1943, he had been lodging with her and her husband Henry Morton Stanley Williams. He was killed in El Alamein in Jan 1942.

This is odd, as Annie Williams (later Ledster) appears already to be widowed by 1939.

From the electoral register, Henry MS Williams does not read as a householder, and is more likely to be Annie's son.
Birth
March 1911 Swansea 11a 1225
Williams, Henry Morton Stanley
mother Beresford

CWGC says he was the son of Thomas and Annie Williams, of Swansea.

1911 free index, Annie Williams is 24, Henry Stanley Morton will be just a few months old
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Re: Ethel Norman married William H. Ledster in Swansea 1919.
« Reply #10 on: Friday 21 December 18 16:55 GMT (UK) »
Yes, Henry Morton Stanley Williams, born 9 January 1911, was baptised 8 February 1911 at Christ Church, Swansea.

Parents: Thomas (labourer) and Annie, of 29 Argyle St.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Ethel Norman married William H. Ledster in Swansea 1919.
« Reply #11 on: Friday 21 December 18 16:57 GMT (UK) »
40 Gwynfor Road for Annie Williams (electoral register with WH Ledster + free address search 1939)

Marriage
Dec 1903 Swansea 11a 1639
Beresford, Annie
Williams, Thomas

Another one
Birth, Sep 1921 Swansea 11a 2349
Williams, Ronald L. G.
mother Beresford

Death
June 1961 Swansea 8b 620
Ledster, Annie
age 75

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Re: Ethel Norman married William H. Ledster in Swansea 1919.
« Reply #12 on: Friday 21 December 18 16:59 GMT (UK) »
Thomas Williams marr Annie Beresford, Dec qtr 1903 Swansea 11a 1639.

Cross-posted :)
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)


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Re: Ethel Norman married William H. Ledster in Swansea 1919.
« Reply #13 on: Friday 21 December 18 17:15 GMT (UK) »
Well at least we can get one of William Ledster's wives!
Baptism of Annie Beresford in Swansea, 14 July 1886
Parents Thomas + Elizabeth Ann
49 Dyvatty Terrace
father a Butcher
Born July 4

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Re: Ethel Norman married William H. Ledster in Swansea 1919.
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 22 December 18 10:00 GMT (UK) »
Many thanks for all the information you all submitted. Almost all of it I already had through FTM Ancestry hints. I'm always amazed how much information is out there on certain families, but on others there seems to be nothing. I tried looking for deaths of a Norman and tried to relate to a marriage, thinking that  Ethel might have been a widow, but with no success. I now will have to get a marriage certificate to see if there are any clues there. So once again, many thanks for all your efforts.
Somerset: Parfitt,Cooke,Mears,Mathews,Snooke,Badman,Ward,Hobbs.
Wilts: Hancock, Eyres, Allen,Wilmot,Carpenter,Plank, Burgess.
Dorset; Trim,Gray,Young.
Lancs: Scott,Hardman, Booth.
Carms: Morgans,Morris, Price,Thomas
Her; Ledster,Taylor,Fox,Barley, Powell,Smith
Middx: Page,Bishop.
Glam: Rees,Evans,Williams,Lewis,Hopkins,Jenkin,Hugh(es)
Cards: Evans,Davies,Jenkins
LNK: Scott, Lawson,Meikle, Bunton,Semple,Stobo,Alison, Craig, Weir, Couper,Stewart, Thomson,Draffan, Hay

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Re: Ethel Norman married William H. Ledster in Swansea 1919.
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 22 December 18 10:12 GMT (UK) »
If you had all this information about Annie, I wonder why you said she was née Davies and the widow of Henry M S Williams?  It’s best to be as clear as possible about what you do know, otherwise people on here take time finding stuff unnecessarily.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Ethel Norman married William H. Ledster in Swansea 1919.
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 22 December 18 11:56 GMT (UK) »
I'm sorry if I put you to all that trouble, but I refer you to my original query. I was only making enquiries about Ethel Norman, she was the only person that I had no information on and I was hoping she may have been someone that had been researched.
Somerset: Parfitt,Cooke,Mears,Mathews,Snooke,Badman,Ward,Hobbs.
Wilts: Hancock, Eyres, Allen,Wilmot,Carpenter,Plank, Burgess.
Dorset; Trim,Gray,Young.
Lancs: Scott,Hardman, Booth.
Carms: Morgans,Morris, Price,Thomas
Her; Ledster,Taylor,Fox,Barley, Powell,Smith
Middx: Page,Bishop.
Glam: Rees,Evans,Williams,Lewis,Hopkins,Jenkin,Hugh(es)
Cards: Evans,Davies,Jenkins
LNK: Scott, Lawson,Meikle, Bunton,Semple,Stobo,Alison, Craig, Weir, Couper,Stewart, Thomson,Draffan, Hay

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Re: Ethel Norman married William H. Ledster in Swansea 1919.
« Reply #17 on: Saturday 22 December 18 12:47 GMT (UK) »
Sometimes it helps us if a bit more information is given on the original post.  :)

You also mentioned having her husband on the 1939 register the full details of that entry may have helped us - you are allowed to post them on here as you are requesting the information, anyone trying to help you can't give the information.  I never did find him in 1939 so had no idea where he was living which may have helped me find Ethel
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