Ancestry of William Duncan 1850 - 1930

[roycymru]

Hello

Hoping someone with better skills than me can help. I am looking for further details for the ancestry of William Duncan baptised 06 May 1850 Skene, Aberdeenshire, died 22 Jun 1930 Standyford, Aberdeenshire. He was a Farmer at Standyford, New Machar and I know he married a Margaret/Maggie Mitchell on 03 Dec 1896 at Hill of Middleton, Fintray, Aberdeenshire, Scotland. I also know that his father was Alexander Duncan (birth and death date unknown) and mother was Isabella Hogg (birth and death date unknown).

I can find William in the 1901 and 1911 with Maggie/Margaret and children census but am having trouble finding him in earlier censuses. I am also having trouble finding his parents marriage and also in the census. From William's marriage certificate it looks like his mother was married before as she is listed as Isabella Wright (I think, please see attached) m.s. Hogg. However, I can't find and Alexander Duncan marriage to an Isabella Wright (or Hogg) and I can't find and Isabella Hogg marrying a "Mr." Wright.

Any help would be greatly appreciated

[mckha489]

HOGG
ISABELLA
DAVID WRIGHT/FR681 (FR681)
27/03/1846
468/
30 276
Tillicoultry

I have NO idea about location, whether that seems a possibility or not, but it is a Wright Hogg marriage

[Wendy2305]

In 1851 Isabella and William are at the home of Isabella's mum Margaret age 66born Strachan also there is Isabella's brother age 22 born Peterculter at Echt Aberdeenshire

Isabella surname on here is Hogg

[Forfarian]

His mother's name is shown as Isabella Wright, M(aiden) S(urname) Hogg. Not Isabella Duncan, formerly Wright, MS Hogg. Therefore she was not married to Alexander Duncan.

Have you looked at the original image of the baptism record on www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk to see exactly what it says?

I think he is in the 1851 census at Mill of Ayre, Echt
Margret Hogg     Head Mar 66 Stocking knitter               Strachan
Robert Hogg       Son Unm 25  Farm labourer                Peterculter
Isabella Hogg      Daughter Unm 21  Visitor                   Skene
William Duncan    Grandson 11 months                         Skene

What about this for 1861
Mains of Kinmundy, Newmachar
Alexander Duncan        Head Mar 42  Farmer    New Machar
Margaret Duncan          Wife Mar 32                New Machar
William Duncan             Son 11                      Skene
Helen Duncan               Daughter 19               New Machar
Margaret Duncan           Daughter 4 months     New Machar

and 1861, Mill o'Air, Echt
Margaret Hogg        Head Wid 77  Crofter Pauper                Strachan
Isabella Hogg          Daughter Unm 30                                Skene
Elisabeth Henry       Granddaughter 7                                 Echt

[MonicaL]

In 1861 I think he is with father:

Alexander Duncan 42 Farmer 87 Acres Employing 3 Labrs b. New Marchar
Margaret Duncan 32
William Duncan 11 b. Skene
Ellen Duncan 19
Margaret Duncan 4 Months
Frederick Webster 15

Address: Mains Of Kinmundy, New Marchar, Aberdeenshire

Monica

[MonicaL]

From baby Margaret's indexed birth entry on 1 Dec 1860 in New Marchar, mother Margaret's maiden name is given as Margaret Burgess.

Likely Alexander was married before given the entry for his 19yr old daughter Ellen Duncan?

Monica

[Wendy2305]

There are 2 deaths in Scotland for Isabella Hogg other name Wright
1 age 59 in 1882 St Giles Midlothian
2 age 78 in 1887 Galashiels Selkirk

[Forfarian]

I happen to know that Alexander Duncan who married Margaret Burgess was the son of Alexander Duncan and Agnes Bisset. Besides Margaret, born 1860, they had seven more children. Margaret Burgess was the daughter of Alexander Burgess and Helen Low, and granddaughter of William Burgess and Isabella Davie, and great-granddaughter of James Burgess.

1. Alexander Duncan
   sp: Agnes Bisset
   2. Alexander Duncan (d.1879)
       sp: Margaret Burgess (b.1828;m.1860;d.1905)
       3. Margaret Duncan (b.1860)
       3. Alexander Duncan (b.1863)
       3. Agnes Duncan (b.1864)
       3. Isabella Bannerman Duncan (b.1866)
       3. James Duncan (b.1868)
       3. Andrew Duncan (b.1969)
       3. Robert Duncan (b.1871)
       3. Mary Duncan (b.1874)

1881 Census: Brokewynd, New Machar
Alexander Duncan     Head M 62  Farmer 100 acres employs 2     New Machar
Maggie Duncan        Wife M 52                                 New Machar
Maggie Duncan        Daughter U 20  Domestic servant               New Machar
Alexr Duncan         Son U 18  Farm servant                   New Machar
James Duncan         Son U 12  Scholar                        New Machar
Robt Duncan          Son U 10  Scholar                        New Machar
Mary Duncan          Daughter U  6  Scholar                        New Machar
Jas Montgomery       Servant U 18  Farm servant agricultural labourer     Ellon
                               

[MonicaL]

The marriage of Margaret Burgess and Alexr (as indexed) Duncan shows on 23 Feb 1860
in New Machar. Can easily see any more children for them.

This looks like Alexander in the 1851 census:

Alexander Duncan 32 Farmer Of 82 Ac (emply 2 Lab) b. New Marchar
Helen Duncan 9 daughter
Agnes Duncan 37 sister
James Rhind 23
James Mcintosh 12

Address: Craighead, New Marchar

Monica

ADDED: From FreeCen, Alexander is showing as a widower in 1851.