Ancestry of William Duncan 1850 - 1930

[Forfarian]

There are 2 deaths in Scotland for Isabella Hogg other name Wright
1 age 59 in 1882 St Giles Midlothian
2 age 78 in 1887 Galashiels Selkirk

From the 1851 census, Isabella was born 1829/30. From the 1861, 1830/1.

The one in St Giles would have been born 1822/1823, and the one in Galashiels 1818/1819.

[Forfarian]

1881 Census: 62 Hutcheon Street, Aberdeen
Isabella WRIGHT   Head Wid   51    Skene, Aberdeen, Scotland
Margaret WRIGHT   Dau U   17    Flax Weaver Aberdeen, Aberdeen, Scotland
Isabella WRIGHT   Dau U   15    Aberdeen, Aberdeen, Scotland

These look like the daughters of William Wright and Isabella Ogg: Mary Ann Jane, born 30 July 1863; Isabella, born 8 December 1865. William Wright and Isabella Ogg were married in Aberdeen St Nicholas on 12 April 1862.

Isabella Ogg or Wright died in Aberdeen St Nicholas in 1881 aged 49.

[MonicaL]

Good find, Forfarian. Must be her you would think.

Just as support notes to what you mentioned on the family line, there is a Family Search pedigree file (free to register, you need to be signed on to view) www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/2:2:S5H7-JR2

With details from this, and mention of Alexander's death in 1897 (at Broken Wynd, North Kinmundy, Newmachar?) there is an entry in the Wills & Testments section on Scotlands People which state:

Alexander Duncan
4/11/1897
   
farmer, residing at Brokenwynd in the parish of New Machar, d. 25/08/1897 at Brokenwynd, intestate, deponent Robert Duncan
   
Extract Inventory
   
Aberdeen Sheriff Court Inventories
   
SC1/36/132

Monica
   

[Forfarian]

Very good. Too bad that he was intestate.

Yes, I can see that tree. Sources are given as FamilySearch and a stone in Newmachar graveyard. Nevertheless about half the dates of death on that tree are wrong. Never believe anything you find online unless it's an image of an original document.

BTW another descendant of Alexander Burgess and Helen Low was the almost legendary piper John Davie Burgess (1934-2005). I attended a recital he gave at the Garve Piping Society meeting in the early 1970s - he was superb.

I am also friendly with a great-great-grandson of William Burgess and Isabella Davie - I meet him most weekends, in fact, at a club we are both members of. I'll tell him about this thread when I see him after New Year.

[MonicaL]

Alexander Duncan looks to be still at home in New Marchar in the 1841 census with his family.

One possibility for his marriage and mother to Helen born c. 1842 is this one:

Alexander Duncan and Margaret Black
Event Date 31 Jan 1841 in New Marchar

There is a Margaret showing in the Duncan household. A possibilty this could be his wife. Such minimal info on the 1841 census that it is hard to say really at this time. His death cert may well name both wives. Also, tracking young Helen to her marriage/death would let you confirm her mother's name hopefully.

Monica

[Forfarian]

There a baptism of Helen Duncan to Alexander Duncan and Helen Dunn in New Machar on 4 November 1841. No obvious marriage however - maybe she was illegitimate too.

[roycymru]

Fantastic! Thank you for all this information, very much appreciated. I will go through an digest it all and come back with any further findings I can make.

[roycymru]

I thought I would start at the beginning and look at the original baptism entry, see attached. This confirms Alexander and Isabella were not married. There is a confusing entry in the margin,  it says “Keith see page 84”. Not sure if it refers to an additional note for this entry or just refers to a missed entry. What do others think? If possibly an additional note for this entry I will try and follow it up, but no idea on how to look at a specific page in baptism?

[Forfarian]

It's a missed entry, nothing to do with your William. Alexander Ewing Keith, son of Alexander Keith and Margaret Tough, baptised 10 May 1850 in Skene.

Good to see that you are looking at the original documents - that's the best way to confirm everything and make sure you have the correct interpretations of all the information, or, if not, that the errors are yours and not some random transcriber's or indexer's. For example, does the original of the 1861 census list Helen or Ellen Duncan? And was Robert Hogg 22 or 25 in 1851?