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Re: 1901 and marriage ?
« Reply #63 on: Saturday 09 March 19 19:03 GMT (UK) »

John William Griffiths - possible related 1901 census
lived at 14 Lower Gungate Tamworth - had served in Royal Artillery Army record
 
53   13   GRIFFITHS   William J.           95 Gungate
53   13   GRIFFITHS   Jeanie           95 Gungate
53   13   GRIFFITHS   Leonard J.           95 Gungate
53   13   GRIFFITHS   Millicent J.           95 Gungate
53   13   GRIFFITHS   Joshua           96 Gungate
53   13   GRIFFITHS   Sarah           96 Gungate
53   13   GRIFFITHS   Edwin           96 Gungate
53   13   GRIFFITHS   Horace M.           96 Gungate
Noah Davis Pain b 1813 m Eliza Woodall, 1835 Tipton
Brother Thomas Pain Davis b1814 m Sarah Kesterton
Father William, Mother Mary, Rowley Reg
James b 1833 m Frances Barlow
Thomas b 1835 m Esther Burchel
Jane b 1837 m William Evans Dec 1857
Maria b 1839 m Richard Attwell 1863 Pensylvania
Joseph b 1845 M Mary Hinton
Sylvia b 1848 m Isaiah Skidmore 1865
Caroline 1848 SEEKING
Charlotte b 1850. SEEKING
Noah Davis 1851 m Annie Dickins 1878
Rosehanna b 1854 M James Thornton, 1875
Mary Ann 1860 SEEKING

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Re: 1901 and marriage ?
« Reply #64 on: Wednesday 13 March 19 09:58 GMT (UK) »
About Griffiths, Harry henry
cant find any Harry Griffiths that fits,
Having looked at the marriage certificate and studied it there is a close possibility of the Fathers name as it is handwritten could be Henry not Harry ? further thought and proof needed before more progress.

Harry is often used as a nickname for Henry

Wolverhampton St Matthew.
Marriage date 11 Oct 1874.
Henry GRIFFITHS. 24. Bachelor Puddler. Chapel Street.
Martha RICH. 21. Spinster. Chapel Street.
Witness Richard TENNANT, and Betsy GRIFFITHS.
Notes Banns; Grooms father deceased; Brides father deceased; Recorded by John E GLADSTONE.
Credit Barb Jones.
Age is slightly out compaired to 1911 census
GRIFFITHS, JOHN mother RICH.
GRO Reference: 1875 J Quarter in WOLVERHAMPTON Volume 06B Page 562.
1891.
William L Davis 39. labourer at brick yard.
Martha Davis 40.
John Griffiths 17. stepson. labourer at brick yard.
Elizabeth Griffiths 12. Stepdaughter
William J Davis 8.
All born Wolverhampton.
Credit Jimmy.

Martha Griffiths married William Davies in 1886.

death,
GRIFFITHS, HENRY age 37.
GRO Reference: 1885 D Quarter in WOLVERHAMPTON Volume 06B Page 395.

1881. Gas Yard Union Mill St, Wolverhampton.
Sarah Higgins 65. widow.
John Rich 31. Son.
Martha Griffiths 29. dau. married.
John Griffiths 6. son.
Elizabeth Griffiths 2. dau.
Martha Collings 61. boarder.

Thank's for this it is very interesting
GRIFFITHS Elizabeth dau.of Henry & Martha 22 Apr 1879 Moseley Village Pudler R.H.Snape Heath Town
indicates john as 4 years older 1875

Was he in Tamworth with relatives earlier
Joined address John William Griffiths - Regimental Number 275217217 - Royal Artillery
lived at 14 Lower Gungate Tamworth - had served in Royal Artillery -
attested 13/8/1914 - discharged 21/9/1916
intended address 14 lower Gungate Tamworth crossed out on this page -
83 Walsall Street Wolverhampton 19/11/1921 - wife Susan
1901 Tamworth (could be relatives)
53   13   GRIFFITHS   William J.   95 Gungate Tamworth
53   13   GRIFFITHS   Jeanie   95 Gungate
53   13   GRIFFITHS   Leonard J.   95 Gungate
53   13   GRIFFITHS   Millicent J.   95 Gungate
53   13   GRIFFITHS   Joshua   96 Gungate
53   13   GRIFFITHS   Sarah   96 Gungate
53   13   GRIFFITHS   Edwin   96 Gungate
53   13   GRIFFITHS   Horace M.   96 Gungate
Noah Davis Pain b 1813 m Eliza Woodall, 1835 Tipton
Brother Thomas Pain Davis b1814 m Sarah Kesterton
Father William, Mother Mary, Rowley Reg
James b 1833 m Frances Barlow
Thomas b 1835 m Esther Burchel
Jane b 1837 m William Evans Dec 1857
Maria b 1839 m Richard Attwell 1863 Pensylvania
Joseph b 1845 M Mary Hinton
Sylvia b 1848 m Isaiah Skidmore 1865
Caroline 1848 SEEKING
Charlotte b 1850. SEEKING
Noah Davis 1851 m Annie Dickins 1878
Rosehanna b 1854 M James Thornton, 1875
Mary Ann 1860 SEEKING

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Re: 1901 and marriage ?
« Reply #65 on: Saturday 23 March 19 16:26 GMT (UK) »
re 1881 - 1891
Looking for Parents other siblings, marriages and census info ?
is Martha Collings connected
Geoff
Thank`s
Noah Davis Pain b 1813 m Eliza Woodall, 1835 Tipton
Brother Thomas Pain Davis b1814 m Sarah Kesterton
Father William, Mother Mary, Rowley Reg
James b 1833 m Frances Barlow
Thomas b 1835 m Esther Burchel
Jane b 1837 m William Evans Dec 1857
Maria b 1839 m Richard Attwell 1863 Pensylvania
Joseph b 1845 M Mary Hinton
Sylvia b 1848 m Isaiah Skidmore 1865
Caroline 1848 SEEKING
Charlotte b 1850. SEEKING
Noah Davis 1851 m Annie Dickins 1878
Rosehanna b 1854 M James Thornton, 1875
Mary Ann 1860 SEEKING

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Re: 1901 and marriage ?
« Reply #66 on: Saturday 23 March 19 16:52 GMT (UK) »
John Rich 1851
Name   John Rich Wolverhampton
Residence Note   Monmore Green
Occupation   Pudlers Son
Birth Year (Estimated)   1851
Thomas Rich   Head   M   34   Dudley, Worcestershire
Sarah Rich   Wife   F   30   Wolverhampton, Staffordshire
John Rich   Son   M   0   Wolverhampton, Staffordshire
Sarah Mafit   Servant   F   10   Wolverhampton, Staffordsh
Noah Davis Pain b 1813 m Eliza Woodall, 1835 Tipton
Brother Thomas Pain Davis b1814 m Sarah Kesterton
Father William, Mother Mary, Rowley Reg
James b 1833 m Frances Barlow
Thomas b 1835 m Esther Burchel
Jane b 1837 m William Evans Dec 1857
Maria b 1839 m Richard Attwell 1863 Pensylvania
Joseph b 1845 M Mary Hinton
Sylvia b 1848 m Isaiah Skidmore 1865
Caroline 1848 SEEKING
Charlotte b 1850. SEEKING
Noah Davis 1851 m Annie Dickins 1878
Rosehanna b 1854 M James Thornton, 1875
Mary Ann 1860 SEEKING


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Re: 1901 and marriage ?
« Reply #67 on: Friday 29 March 19 11:31 GMT (UK) »
Whos daughter was Sarah Ann, Who was william married to
1881
Moseley V High Street, Wednesfield, Wolverhampton,
Staffordshire, England
Mary Jones   Head   Widow   Female 55   1826   No Occupation   Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England
William   Davis   Son In Law Married   Male   30   1851   Cooper   Oakengates, Shropshire, England
Rachel   Jones   Daughter   Single   Female   21   1860   ? Painter (Whitesmith)   Staffordshire, England
Catherine Jones   Daughter   Single   Female   18   1863   None   Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England
Rosehannah Jones Daughter   Single   Female   17   1864   Tacker   Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England
Enoch Jones   Son   Single   Male   12   1869   None   Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England
Sarah Ann Griffiths Daughter   Single   Female   4   1877   Baby
Thanks

Noah Davis Pain b 1813 m Eliza Woodall, 1835 Tipton
Brother Thomas Pain Davis b1814 m Sarah Kesterton
Father William, Mother Mary, Rowley Reg
James b 1833 m Frances Barlow
Thomas b 1835 m Esther Burchel
Jane b 1837 m William Evans Dec 1857
Maria b 1839 m Richard Attwell 1863 Pensylvania
Joseph b 1845 M Mary Hinton
Sylvia b 1848 m Isaiah Skidmore 1865
Caroline 1848 SEEKING
Charlotte b 1850. SEEKING
Noah Davis 1851 m Annie Dickins 1878
Rosehanna b 1854 M James Thornton, 1875
Mary Ann 1860 SEEKING

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Re: 1901 and marriage ?
« Reply #68 on: Friday 29 March 19 12:48 GMT (UK) »
1881 - very strange that Sarah Ann Griffiths only appears on the transcription of the household, BUT not on the image.   :-\

Using GRO there are 3 instances of Sarah Ann Griffiths - 1876/1877 in Wolverhampton District - mother's maiden names are Jones, Rich and Roberts.

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Re: 1901 and marriage ?
« Reply #69 on: Friday 29 March 19 12:53 GMT (UK) »
Interesting re Prev Post ref RICH family
Geoff
Noah Davis Pain b 1813 m Eliza Woodall, 1835 Tipton
Brother Thomas Pain Davis b1814 m Sarah Kesterton
Father William, Mother Mary, Rowley Reg
James b 1833 m Frances Barlow
Thomas b 1835 m Esther Burchel
Jane b 1837 m William Evans Dec 1857
Maria b 1839 m Richard Attwell 1863 Pensylvania
Joseph b 1845 M Mary Hinton
Sylvia b 1848 m Isaiah Skidmore 1865
Caroline 1848 SEEKING
Charlotte b 1850. SEEKING
Noah Davis 1851 m Annie Dickins 1878
Rosehanna b 1854 M James Thornton, 1875
Mary Ann 1860 SEEKING

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Re: 1901 and marriage ?
« Reply #70 on: Sunday 31 March 19 16:01 BST (UK) »

Was William Davis married to Elizabeth. ref 1881
Name:   Mary Jones
Event Type:   Census
Event Date:   1871
Event Place:   Wolverhampton, Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England
Enumeration District:   38
Gender:   Female
Age:   44
Marital Status:   Married
Relationship to Head of Household:   Wife
Birth Year (Estimated):   1827
Birthplace:   Whampton, Staffordshire
Entry Number:   8
Affiliate Image Identifier:   GBC/1871/2940/0289
Household   Role   Sex   Age   Birthplace
James Jones   Head   Male   52   Busby Green, Shropshire
Mary Jones   Wife   Female   44   Whampton, Staffordshire
Elizabeth Jones   Daughter   Female   21   Whampton, Staffordshire
George Jones   Son   Male   19   Whampton, Staffordshire
Ann Jones   Daughter   Female   17   Whampton, Staffordshire
Teadora Jones   Son   Male   13   Whampton, Staffordshire
Rachel Jones   Daughter   Female   11   Whampton, Staffordshire
Cathrine Jones   Daughter   Female   9   Whampton, Staffordshire
Rose Hannah Jones   Daughter   Female   7   Whampton, Staffordshire
James Jones   Son   Male   5   Whampton, Staffordshire
Genoah Jones   Son   Male   3   Whampton, Staffordshire
Noah Davis Pain b 1813 m Eliza Woodall, 1835 Tipton
Brother Thomas Pain Davis b1814 m Sarah Kesterton
Father William, Mother Mary, Rowley Reg
James b 1833 m Frances Barlow
Thomas b 1835 m Esther Burchel
Jane b 1837 m William Evans Dec 1857
Maria b 1839 m Richard Attwell 1863 Pensylvania
Joseph b 1845 M Mary Hinton
Sylvia b 1848 m Isaiah Skidmore 1865
Caroline 1848 SEEKING
Charlotte b 1850. SEEKING
Noah Davis 1851 m Annie Dickins 1878
Rosehanna b 1854 M James Thornton, 1875
Mary Ann 1860 SEEKING

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Re: 1901 and marriage ?
« Reply #71 on: Tuesday 02 April 19 15:32 BST (UK) »
Help needed please looking at Census`s, birth,marriage, death
John Rich 1851
Name   John Rich Wolverhampton
Residence Note   Monmore Green
Occupation   Pudlers Son
Birth Year (Est)   1851
Thomas Rich       Head   M   34   Dudley, Worcestershire
 Sarah Rich (higgins) Wife   F   30   Wolverhampton, Staffordshire
John Rich ****       Son   M   0   Wolverhampton, Staffordshire
Sarah Mafit   Servant   F   10   Wolverhampton, Staffordsh

1881. Gas Yard Union Mill St, Wolverhampton.
Sarah Higgins 65. widow.
John Rich 31. Son.
 Martha Griffiths 29. dau. married.****
 John Griffiths 6. son.
 Elizabeth Griffiths 2. dau.
 Martha Collings 61. boarder. related possibly

Age is slightly out compaired to 1911 census
GRIFFITHS, JOHN mother RICH. **** (martha Rich) Pos the John William start of post
GRO Reference: 1875 J Quarter in WOLVERHAMPTON Volume 06B Page 562.
Noah Davis Pain b 1813 m Eliza Woodall, 1835 Tipton
Brother Thomas Pain Davis b1814 m Sarah Kesterton
Father William, Mother Mary, Rowley Reg
James b 1833 m Frances Barlow
Thomas b 1835 m Esther Burchel
Jane b 1837 m William Evans Dec 1857
Maria b 1839 m Richard Attwell 1863 Pensylvania
Joseph b 1845 M Mary Hinton
Sylvia b 1848 m Isaiah Skidmore 1865
Caroline 1848 SEEKING
Charlotte b 1850. SEEKING
Noah Davis 1851 m Annie Dickins 1878
Rosehanna b 1854 M James Thornton, 1875
Mary Ann 1860 SEEKING