Census info for Bakers in London 1851 and 1861

[avm228]

What is the father Wallis Baker’s occupation on the 1858 birth certificate?

[avm228]

I see that the birth reg for Francis Wallis Baker was found for you on your earlier post
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=766964.0

He may have died as Wallis Baker aged 2, Mar qtr 1857 St Pancras 1b 67.

[Jamesgb]

On the Birth Certificate i have Wallis Bakers occupation as a Commercial Traveler

[avm228]

Well he is certainly elusive!  Who registered the birth - was it Ann?

[rosie99]

Maybe 

1851 Holborn - Great Ormond Street
HO107/1513 f51 p29
Living with William and Ann Jonas
John   Baker - Lodger   age   34   occ Traveller   bn Nottingham
Ann   Baker - Wife   age 27   bn Creech, Somerset, England

[Jamesgb]

It was Ann that registered the birth.

Frederick was living with a separate family when only a couple of years old. The Southalls, I was given the information on here some years ago;

1861 – (Aged 2) - Resided with Thomas Southall (41), Emma Southall (33), Jane Sherrington (36)

This was the information from the census, Frederick was no relation to Thomas but would you know what relationship Jane had to Thomas, might be good to rule her out of anything.

[Jamesgb]

Maybe 

1851 Holborn - Great Ormond Street
HO107/1513 f51 p29
Living with William and Ann Jonas
John   Baker - Lodger   age   34   occ Traveller   bn Nottingham
Ann   Baker - Wife   age 27   bn Creech, Somerset, England

That could make a little sense, living in Holborn as the possible other child of John and Ann (Francis) was born in Holborn

[avm228]

I wonder whether it is pure coincidence that the neighbouring household at 13 Gt Ormond St contains a widowed Barbara Baker - it may be worth keeping a note of that in case Barbara’s late husband was connected to John Baker in some way.

[avm228]

I wonder whether it is pure coincidence that the neighbouring household at 13 Gt Ormond St contains a widowed Barbara Baker - it may be worth keeping a note of that in case Barbara’s late husband was connected to John Baker in some way.

Barbara Baker’s late husband was William Way Baker b 1801 St Pancras, son of Robert and Maria.  It looks as though Robert was a barrister and magistrate; WW joined the British East India Company in 1816 and spent his career in India, dying there of cholera in 1839.

There’s no obvious sign of a connection to Nottingham-born John Baker.