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Re: Death registration help
« Reply #72 on: Tuesday 01 January 19 16:28 GMT (UK) »
Looks like they didn't marry.
Could Thomas perhaps have been baptized as an illegitimate Taylor? Though I haven't found one yet.

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Re: Death registration help
« Reply #73 on: Tuesday 01 January 19 17:12 GMT (UK) »
London Gazette, 13 November 1821
https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/17764/page/2239

No. 5, New Bond-Street, November 10, 1821
Notice is hereby given, that William Weld and John Louthin, of New Bond-Street, in the County of Middlesex, Tailors and Copartners, have this day dissolved Partnersnip by mutual consent; such dissolution to commence from the 29th day of September last. — The business will in future be carried on in Bond-Street, by John Louthin alone.
Wm. Weld.
J. Louthin.

My husband does family research in Birmingham and we aren't that far away so I think we will be making a trip there very soon!

Held at Birmingham Archives
Louthin, J. Tailors and breeches maker; 5 New Bond Street, London
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/36b6106c-7c2c-464e-81e8-63d42c7ab634

See also Louthin and Oven
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/ef8dba4d-8d50-4ba1-9752-676cc629d09a

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Re: Death registration help
« Reply #74 on: Tuesday 01 January 19 17:36 GMT (UK) »
This looks a reasonable candidate:-

John Louthian,christened Jan 1784,parents John and Mary,Union Court,Holborn.

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Re: Death registration help
« Reply #75 on: Tuesday 01 January 19 18:24 GMT (UK) »
Thomas married Sarah Susannah as Thomas Paterson Coburg Louthin & was named as Thomas Cockburn Louthin on Eleanor Harriet’s marriage, so this looks like his baptism at St James, Piccadilly:

1 Jul 1816 Thomas Patterson Coburg Louding (transcribed as Londing)

All other details are blank - or so faint as to be unreadable - other than the name of the minister.
MORGAN: Glamorgan, Durham, Ohio. DAVIS/DAVIES/DAVID: Glamorgan, Ohio.  GIBSON: Leicestershire, Durham, North Yorkshire.  RAIN/RAINE: Cumberland.  TAYLOR: North Yorks. BOURDAS: North Yorks. JEFFREYS: Worcestershire & Northumberland. FORBES: Berwickshire, CHEESMOND: Durham/Northumberland. WINTER: Durham/Northumberland. SNOWBALL: Durham.


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Re: Death registration help
« Reply #76 on: Tuesday 01 January 19 18:49 GMT (UK) »
I can't quite make it out fully,but Patterson appears to be the name of the executor of John Louthin's will.

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Re: Death registration help
« Reply #77 on: Tuesday 01 January 19 19:49 GMT (UK) »
There is an interesting will on Ancestry for a Thomas Louthin of Gill House, Arkengarthdale, probated 1839, naming the following:

Edward, Thomas & Jane Louthin of Newcastle (Nephews & Niece). Mother named as Jane.
Mary Rowntree of Leyburn (Niece)
Ellen Robson (Niece)
Ellen Louthin (Niece)
Ellen & Hannah Rowntree (Nieces)
Ann Storey (Niece)
Richard Rowntree (Nephew)
Thomas Louthin of Leyburn (Nephew)
Rodger & William Price (Nephews)

As well as individual legacies, the Nephews & Nieces from Ellen Robson down received an equal share of his goods, chattels & house in Arkengarthdale.  Any remaining furniture to be shared between Richard Rowntree, Thomas Louthin of Leyburn, Ellen & Hannah Rowntree, Ann Storey & Ellen Louthin.

Executors were Richard Rowntree & Thomas Louthin of Leyburn.

The 1825 will of John Louthin includes 'Appeared Personally John Owen(?) of No. 5 New Bond Street, Middlesex, Tailor, and Richard Rowntree of the same place, Tailor', who swore under oath that the handwriting and signature on the will belonged to John Louthin.

ADDED: William Patterson was the executor.
MORGAN: Glamorgan, Durham, Ohio. DAVIS/DAVIES/DAVID: Glamorgan, Ohio.  GIBSON: Leicestershire, Durham, North Yorkshire.  RAIN/RAINE: Cumberland.  TAYLOR: North Yorks. BOURDAS: North Yorks. JEFFREYS: Worcestershire & Northumberland. FORBES: Berwickshire, CHEESMOND: Durham/Northumberland. WINTER: Durham/Northumberland. SNOWBALL: Durham.

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Re: Death registration help
« Reply #78 on: Tuesday 01 January 19 20:30 GMT (UK) »
Thomas Louthin is described as cousin to Richard Rowntree in the 1871 census.Likely connection via marriage of 1801 in Wensley,Leyburn between Hannah Lowthian and William Rowntree?

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« Reply #79 on: Wednesday 02 January 19 08:49 GMT (UK) »
Richard Rowntree is William's son,so for Thomas Louthin to be cousin,his father John(born circa 1782) would have to be brother to Hannah(born circa 1772).The latter estimate comes from the burial record of Hannah Rowntree in Wensley,Leyburn.

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Re: Death registration help
« Reply #80 on: Wednesday 02 January 19 16:51 GMT (UK) »
Thanks once again. Very interesting stuff about John Louthin having a business in New Bond Street. It seems that Beau Brummel, the arbiter of well-made, perfectly tailored clothes, used several tailors, some of them on Bond Street, so it's entirely possible that John made clothes for him! It seems very sad that Thomas and his family were brought so low, expecially when Thomas had been working for a tailor on Regent Street. I wonder if he was a drinker? I also found a marriage of a John Lowthian in Westminster in 1805, to Harriet Holloway. I wonder if John and Sarah did not marry because John was already married?
That baptism is definitely his. Brilliant!

Love Lynne