Death registration help

[rosie99]

I see that Eleanor Louthin who died in service(I think) in Leyburn in 1882 had a personal estate valued at approx £91.

Regards
Roger

Obit  York Herald 17 January 1882
On the 13th inst. at Spennithorne Hall, in this County, age 55, Eleanor Louthin.

She is buried at Spennithorne -   St Michael & All Angels

[rosie99]

I know you have this baptism but just posting details

St James, Westminster
Born 11 Aug 1817 - bapt 2 Sept 1817
Ellen Louthin- parents John & Sarah -fathers occ Tailor - abode Dufonts Place
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also St James...../

Eleanor Lothen born 12 May 1819 -parents John & Sarah - fathers occ Tailor -abode Vine Street

Born 10 March 1821 -bapt 6 April 1821
Isabella Louthin - parents John & Sarah -fathers occ Taylor -abode 3 Vine Street
Buried 1824 age 3 abode New Bond Street

[despair]

Excellent spot of Eleanor Lothen,there are so many spelling variants to deal with.

John Louthin,tailor,appears to be a partner in Weld and Louthin of (New) Bond Street
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01n7h/
He is given as John Lothin(1782-1825) in Westminster Burialsst
He is given as John Lowthin in Westminster Rate books,entries finishing appropriately in 1825.
I suspect his wife Sarah is the one given as Lothian in Westminster burials(1792-1835)

So is Ellin Louthin whose baptism record is given as 1817 the same as Eleanor Lothen 1819?
I think yes,because after the entry in 1819 it appears to say "two churchings".

But where is Thomas' equivalent baptism?
Are they brother and sister?
I think "yes" despite the caveat re census age for Eleanor.She was in service for the only confirmed entries,so perhaps her employer,as head of household and provider of information was generous to
her!

Regards
Roger

[rosie99]

So is Ellin Louthin whose baptism record is given as 1817 the same as Eleanor Lothen 1819?
I think yes,because after the entry in 1819 it apps"ears to say "two churchings".

They give different dates of birth.  You can obviously see a document that I can't as I see no mention of two churchings on those I can.

[Lynne Tann-Watson]

Thanks Roger and Rosie. It looks, from what you've posted, as though Ellen Louthin may have died and Eleanor is another child. I think it's most likely that John and Sarah are the same John and Sarah in all entries, despite the different spellings of the surname. They are close enough to the origianl and the name is so uncommon I can't see there being two John And Sarah's. This is also almost certainly Thomas's parents too. Interesting there being a business "Weld And Louthin". It looks as though the family fortunes went downhill. It would be useful to find a baptism and /marriage for John. I wonder if he was born in Leyburn?

[jonw65]

PCC will of John Louthin of Bond Street, Middlesex, 1825
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D196527

also Sarah Taylor otherwise Lowthin, Spinster of Saint James Westminster, 1835
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D297782

will be on ancestry.

[despair]

You're right Rosie,different dates.Plus,the 1819 record gives Vine St as an address.Bit of a tangle!

Regards
Roger

[despair]

In the preamble to the will of 1835 Sarah refers to"her children Thomas and Elin"

Regards
Roger

[despair]

There is some interesting language in the preamble to John Louthin's will of 1825,where he refers to "my beloved friend Sarah Taylor and the family we have had.."  "...Thomas,Eleanor and Isabella..."
(fits with description "spinster"?)
Regards
Roger