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Re: Missing birth records
« Reply #18 on: Sunday 06 January 19 19:45 GMT (UK) »
I think most likely thing is that Clara was simply not registered - possibly just slipping through the net with young unmarried first-time parents not getting round to it.

1901 census: RG13/2822/75/40

2 Oak St, Smethwick (visitors to a Weston family)

Clara Boys S 24 Tinworker Smethwick
Thomas Stokes S 25 Brick carter Smethwick
Clara Boys 1 Smethwick
Hannah Boys 3wks Smethwick
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Missing birth records
« Reply #19 on: Sunday 06 January 19 19:52 GMT (UK) »
That was kind of what I thought but I couldnt find Nellie either and she wouldve been born around 1903 which is in the middle of the other children.

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Re: Missing birth records
« Reply #20 on: Sunday 06 January 19 19:55 GMT (UK) »
Yes - but they may just have had a difficult or even chaotic family life.  It is not clear whether they were the parents of Ronald Thorn Boyes b 1902 but he seems to have been (informally) adopted out.  The fertility numbers suggest they had a child who died.  Perhaps birth registrations sometimes slipped through the net for them.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Missing birth records
« Reply #21 on: Sunday 06 January 19 19:58 GMT (UK) »
Oh hum!!

Poor Clara, problems at both ends of her life - no birth certificate to prove her parents line and no grave either!

In the absence of a birth certificate, any ideas on how to prove her parents?

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Re: Missing birth records
« Reply #22 on: Sunday 06 January 19 20:09 GMT (UK) »
How about this then. Clara Frances Muriel Stokes born Wolverhampton first quarter 1900, mothers maiden name WESTON which matches the family she is with in the 1901 census
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Re: Missing birth records
« Reply #23 on: Sunday 06 January 19 20:15 GMT (UK) »
How about this then. Clara Frances Muriel Stokes born Wolverhampton first quarter 1900, mothers maiden name WESTON which matches the family she is with in the 1901 census

Ah.  Interesting!  Her baptism on 6 December 1899 at St Mark’s, Wolverhampton names her parents as Thomas (an insurance agent) and Clara, of Stubbs’ Lane, Bradmore.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Missing birth records
« Reply #24 on: Sunday 06 January 19 20:16 GMT (UK) »
Yes, we had that a while back and ruled it out but I have the birth cert for it.

It says, mothers maiden name Weston with fathers occupation as Insurance Agent which doesnt seem right as on Clara and Leonards marriage cert her father is listed as a Carter.

Its not out of the realms of possibility but I thought it might be a stretch given the occupations

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Re: Missing birth records
« Reply #25 on: Sunday 06 January 19 20:19 GMT (UK) »
Could be a different Thomas though? I agree it is confusing.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Missing birth records
« Reply #26 on: Sunday 06 January 19 20:19 GMT (UK) »
Not her, she married James Bleakley in 1919
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