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Violet May Elliott - confusion
« on: Wednesday 09 January 19 18:22 GMT (UK) »
I wonder if anyone can help me untangle the details of a Violet May Elliott?
I have the following info: https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1893/02305/1864248.pdf
Birth of Violet May Elliott 28th Apr 1893
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1918/09719/5526287.pdf
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1918/09719/5526252.pdf
Wedding Violet May Elliott & Arthur George Williams 1918, 2nd Officer RNTS
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/181920139
Burial of Violet died 18th Oct 1990 (plus parents & brother on tombstone, so correct)

On the 1939 Register I find:
With Arthur Williams b18th Sept 1893, (who has a RN disability pension) GPO Mail sorter. Could be?
BUT Violet May has a birth date of 18th Aug 1895 (Not the same at all)
& inferred child Minnie R Williams/Huggett b13th Jun 1820 at Walthamstow

I have followed up from various angles, but am confused as to whetther this is the Violt May I am looking for.  I have been unable to find a civil death record & wonder if perhaps she remarried - on her tomb she is described simply as Violet...... ???
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Re: Violet May Elliott - confusion
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 09 January 19 20:35 GMT (UK) »
Have you got her in any Census, where does she say she was born?

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Re: Violet May Elliott - confusion
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 09 January 19 21:04 GMT (UK) »
There is this death:

Violet May McMorran October 1990 Southampton

Date of birth 28 April 1893

This matches your birthdate for Violet.
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Re: Violet May Elliott - confusion
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 09 January 19 21:09 GMT (UK) »
There is an entry in the Probate registers for Violet.
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Re: Violet May Elliott - confusion
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 09 January 19 21:24 GMT (UK) »
Minnie Rose Huggett died October 1999 Waltham Forest d.o.b 13th June 1920
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Re: Violet May Elliott - confusion
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 10 January 19 17:36 GMT (UK) »
Thank you so much for this.  The probate is definitely her.  I have looked for her McMorran marriage and just can't find it. 
The 1939 Register that includes a potential daughter called Huggett doesn't have this Violet May's birth date, tho curiously I did find a tree on ancestry that had a McMorran marrying a Huggett, but no trace of any Violet May.
Any tips please on tracking down the McMorran marriage?
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Re: Violet May Elliott - confusion
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 10 January 19 17:46 GMT (UK) »
I thought I had posted this marriage but can’t see it now

Sept 1940 Essex S W

Minnie R Williams and Alfred G Huggett

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Re: Violet May Elliott - confusion
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 10 January 19 17:59 GMT (UK) »
Sorry, I think I have added to my own confusion....
My main interest is Violet May Williams/nee Elliott who died 1990 as Violet May McMorran.

I can't find the McMorran marriage at all - I've tried linking it to both Williams and Elliott.  On her tombstone Violet May is recorded as 'musician' if that helps?

(I am not convinced that the 1939 Register that mentions the Huggett daughter is my Violet May as the Violet May birth dates differ so widely)
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Re: Violet May Elliott - confusion
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 10 January 19 18:07 GMT (UK) »
I thought the marriage might help you confirm if Minnie is the daughter.

The area seems to fit re 1939 and Minnie.

I wonder if ‘Musician’ is a poor translation of  ‘McMorran’ - same number of letters. It does seem a bit odd though.

You could try looking for a death for Arthur Williams.

Violet may have cohabited with Mr McMorran. Her will may help.
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