Tower Hamlets Cemetery plot reference

[nicky 84]

Oh that’s disappointing... looks like we’re in for a really long wait then .

Are there other ways to find out where people’s memorials are ?

Be like a needle in a haystack searching the park I imagine .. ..

[rosie99]

Hi ,
I'm new here so excuse me if I do anything wrong
I am planning a visit to the Tower Hamlets cemetery park to pay my respects to ancestors and clean them up if need be .
I have found information on one as she has a private grave where as the others I don't think had .
My question is , would you have any information on this one at all as I did see most of the memorials can not be read so trying to do homework .
Lady I want to find is " Emma Ann Murrell " , buried 27th November 1924
Age 47
P1490 

Thank you for any help at all , Nicky

There is another with that same number P1490 buried the same day - Mary Ann Hymas.
On the 12th December there is Henry William Jack & Mary Ann Eagle.
15th December  -Marion Bradley
19th December - Lucinda May Parsons
There are several more after that and on the page before Emma's.

[nicky 84]

Thank you that’s interesting.
Do you think P1490 is an area rather than a plot ?

[Chris Doran]

With all those presumably unrelated people, this looks like a "common" or "public" grave for people who couldn't afford a "private" plot reserved for a family. I've known 50 or more people in such graves. If so, the bad news is that it's likely to be off the path in the undergrowth and they may not have been able to afford a headstone either. If there is a headstone, it's probably a miniature one, often seen placed on graves one after the other like dominoes, as with this one which i found when I plunged into said undergrowth to avoid a downpour.

[nicky 84]

Strange thing is Emma Ann Murrell’s details are on the register of private burials ?

I tried to post the picture of the page but the file is too big 😩

[rosie99]

You should not post the image anyway because of copyright.  If you are referring to the image on Ancestry the top of the page above the image it has
London, England, City of London and Tower Hamlets Cemetery 1841 - 1966 for Emma Ann Murrell
Register of Private graves 1868 - 1883  so total nonsense as the page shows burials for 1924.

Going back to page 4 of that dataset it states in handwriting
'City of London & Tower Hamlets Cemetery Company.'
Register of burials with grave numbers.
December 1918 - May 1946 - July 1952
In Unconsecrated ground
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March 1951 - April 1952
In Consecrated Ground

[Chris Doran]

I'm beginning to wonder whether these "P" numbers are really plot numbers or just references to some other index. My Ancestry sub doesn't cover Tower Hamlet registers. Could someone look up some of:-

William Mitchell Smith d 17-Jun-1882 a 46, whose footstone says No 8290.
Charlotte Hibbard d 13-Feb-1924 a 69, No 9014 on footstone
Charlotte Maria Hibbard d 1-Sep 1884 a 3y 9m,,grave 152.F according to her mother's headstone.

[rosie99]

Charlotte Hibbard d 13-Feb-1924 a 69, No 9014 on footstone

This entry appears on the same dataset we are looking at.  In the same column that shows the P entries on the other records Charlottes has just 9014.

I will come back back to this later as I am out this morning

[rosie99]

The dataset that Emma Ann Murrell and Charlotte Hibbards burial are in only starts at 21 December 1918.  That would tie in with the handwritten note at the beginning which mentions burial in unconsecrated ground from Dec 1918. The first column in which the P references are does not have a heading. The numbers in this column are either just numbers or they have a F or a P before them.

Charlotte Maria Hibbard's burial appears in the burial Day Book and the burials register, the day book confirms the F152 reference.

William Mitchell Smith just appears in the burial register. 
ADDED He appears in the Day Book as William Mitcheson Smith -Sq 74.     8290