William MASON wed Mary KING circa 1833 in Tynemouth?

[rosie99]

When he married in Australia did he use the full name Joseph William King Mason.

I think you really need to establish from Australian records when he arrived there and any other information they give

[JenB]

Sarah died (believed in child birth) in Dec 1854 - could not find a death entry and there was a child born Dec 1854 (possibly Cuthbert Cook Mason), that child also died Dec so assumed mother and child both died

This is a very tangled web!

I can't yet see a death for Sarah in 1854, not can I see a birth or a death for Cuthbert Cook Mason in 1854. Can you give more details of the latter please?

[ThommoS]

Apologies I am not familiar with the geography in your realm and without looking at Google, have no idea how far the places are from each other that you mention so will have to look them up.....

For his marriage to Blakey he signed his full name Joseph William King Mason and to Lowe he just signed Joseph William Mason..the signatures are quite distinct from the same hand.

Both his wives made their marks.... .both his wives made their marks....

The problem I am having in identifying his arrival in Australia being that he may have worked his passage and then 'jumped ship' - there are many migration entries for William Mason both self funded and assisted passage but if he was crew then no entry would appear as a migration record

It's a pity none show his full name so I cannot be certain other than he arrived between certain years....

Regarding the death mentioned...I could not find any either and relied on the statement he made on his marriage Declaration to Lowe - without concrete proof it is very hard to confirm.....

There are no Victorian records for any siblings by that name in either Births Death or Marriages.

[rosie99]

From the marriage to 'Blakey' could you please give his occupation, his fathers occupation and the witnesses names

[ThommoS]

Hi Rosie99

As per previous post......
1854 Marriage - JWKM : a bachelor, occupation Mariner, father ( William Mason) occupation: grocer - all resided Tynemouth

Witnesses: Ebenezer Kell Blakey (bride's brother) and Mary Ann Robinson

Sarah Jane Blakey, a spinster being a minor (less than 21 years) resided in Tynewouth 

Bride's father Thomas Blakey was a butcher in Tynemouth

The reason why I have not been able to find any migration record for JWK Mason, he stated he was a mariner, so may have worked passage to Australia...and unfortunately the migration records don't list the full names usually....only given name and far too many listed to confirm one specific without additional information.

[rosie99]

Hi Rosie99

As per previous post......
1854 Marriage - JWKM : a bachelor, occupation Mariner, father ( William Mason) occupation: grocer - all resided Tynemouth

Thank you,

English marriages normally only confirm abode of Bride & Groom. 

The 1841 & 1851 census do not show a William Mason occ Grocer that would tie in with the information you have.  At least you have confirmed that the signature on the Blakey marriage is similar to the Australian marriage 

[JenB]

I have a baptism (not sure from where as yet) that shows he was baptised 13 May 1834 at Nth Shields

The parish church was Christ Church, and I can't see a baptism there on that date for your man 
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-676P-J3?i=604&wc=9K59-168%3A13617901%2C30809801%2C31236601&cc=1309819

The only baptism for a Joseph Mason on 13 May 1834 I can see at the moment was at Houghton-Le-Spring (County Durham)  -parents William occ Pitman & Mary - abode Crosfines Row

Apologies I am not familiar with the geography in your realm and without looking at Google, have no idea how far the places are from each other that you mention so will have to look them up.....

As the crow flies it's some 14 miles south of Tynemouth, but the River Tyne is in the way!


 

[JenB]

Sarah died (believed in child birth) in Dec 1854 - could not find a death entry

I strongly suspect that's because she probably didn't die in 1854!

She is on the 1841 census as aged 3, with her father Thomas Blakey, butcher, mother Elizabeth and siblings in North Shields. Also in the household is someone with the surname Kell. (HO 107 / 825 / 10 / 39 / 25)

In 1851 census aged 13. In 1851 she is living with her mother and step-father John Lough in North Shields (HO 107 / 2409 / 442/ 11)

In 1857 there is the birth of a  Mary Ann Kell Mason, birth registered 3rd q. 1858, Tynemouth 10b, 113. Mother's maiden name Blakey.

In 1861 there is a married Sarah Mason, 23, born North Shields, working as a house servant in North Shields in 1861 ( RG 11/ 3837/ 83/ 62)

Also in 1861 a Mary Ann Kell, aged 3 is living with a Mary Ann Lough and her son Ebenezer Blakey in North Shields (RG 9/ 3837/ 60/14)

Finally the death of Mary Ann Lough Mason aged 9 in Tynemouth in 1867.

I appreciate this isn't finding your Joseph's parents, but a bit of unravelling of the story is needed, I think 

[JenB]

Marriage Sarah Blakey and George Scrimshaw, Tynemouth, 3rd quarter 1865.

Marriage 24 June 1865. Sarah's father is Thomas Blakey. Her age is given as 24, but given that the groom is much younger than her she could well have been telling a little fib.

In 1871 Sarah and George Scrimshaw are living in Hartlepool. Her birthplace is North Shields. (RG 10 / 4922/ 24/ 42)

My feeling is that this is very likely the Sarah who married your Joseph, and who he said had died in 1854