Ashworth Family

[Marilyn G.]

Hello,
I am a "very beginner".  Would like help searching for John/Hannah Ashworth family, Marple Bridge,Derby England.
I am from the U.S.A. and have no idea as to how to do genealogy research for families from England, do not understand all the terms, can those of you with experience help?  Thank you.

[casalguidi]

Hi Marilyn

Welcome to Rootschat

Perhaps you could give us some dates to start with and tell us just exactly what you do know.

You'll get lots of help & advice on here I'm sure.

Best wishes

Casalguidi

[Valda]

I'm not sure about a Marple (Bridge) in Derbyshire. There is a Marple in Cheshire. This census entry combines the two for a James Ashworth. I can't see him after this. If this is the right James did he emigrate and is so when? No Hannah though. Was she a wife or sister?

1861 census RG9 2554 folio 36
Market Street Beard  Derbyshire    
John Ashworth 61  New Mills, Derbyshire, Head  Married  Spinner at cotton mill
Elizabeth Ashworth 58  New Mills, Derbyshire,  Wife
Joseph Ashworth 32 New Mills, Derbyshire, Son  Unmarried spinner
Alice Ashworth 22  New Mills, Derbyshire, Daughter  Unamrried Dressmaker
James Ashworth 20 born Marple, Cheshire, Son Unmarried  Wheelwright
Alice Ashworth 23 New Mills, Derbyshire, Unmarried Niece Dressmaker
Mary Ashworth 20 New Mills, Derbyshire, Unmarried Niece  Picer
David Ashworth 33 New Mills, Derbyshire,  Lodger  Married Clerk at Calico print works
Margaret Ashworth 38  G??, Cheshire, Wife  Married
Mary Dale 9  Glossop, Derbyshire, Lodger  Tirer
Alice Ann Ashworth 2  New Mills, Derbyshire, Granddaughter   
John Ashworth 6mths New Mills, Derbyshire, Grandson 

Regards
Valda
   

[Sylviaann]

Seems to be one of those places that moved county

I Googled and found this amongst many other sites

http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DBY/Marple/

Sylviaann

[Valda]

Phillimore Atlas and index of Parish registers places Marple in Cheshire not Derbyshire and the parish records deposited with Cheshire Record Office. When people on the 1861 census give Marple as their birthplace the census enumerators write Marple Cheshire, which is why I called it for Cheshire.
However, I imagine you are right. The county boundary between Cheshire and Derbyshire probably went somewhere through the actual parish itself.

However the real question is whether it is the right James Ashworth or not?

Regards
Valda

[Marilyn G.]

Hello, Thank you to all for your kind replies.  Here is all the information I have on the Ashworth family I seek to learn  more about.
John Ashworth born 7-3-1780
Hannah (his wife) born 5-16-1785

Lucy (their daughter I wish to find history of) born 11-21-1812
 
Lucy baptized : Formerly Mill Brow Indepentent, Marple Bridge, Derby, England. 

Can you lead me to area to search?  Do not know what above means.  Thank you, Marilyn G.

[Valda]

These are Lucy and her siblings baptisms, that I sent you for others to see

WILLIAM ASHWORTH
Christening: 23 SEP 1808 Formerly Mill Brow Independent, Marple Bridge, Derby

BETTY ASHWORTH
Birth: 21 OCT 1810 Formerly Mill Brow Independent, Marple Bridge, Derby

LUCY ASHWORTH
Christening: FEB 1813 Formerly Mill Brow Independent, Marple Bridge, Derby
 
JOHN ASHWORTH
Birth: 02 DEC 1814 Formerly Mill Brow Independent, Marple Bridge, Derby
 
JOSEPH ASHWORTH - Birth: 28 OCT 1816 Formerly Mill Brow Independent, Marple Bridge, Derby
 
HANNAH ASHWORTH
Birth: 30 MAR 1820 Formerly Mill Brow Independent, Marple Bridge, Derby
 
EDWIN ASHWORTH
Christening: 10 DEC 1821 Formerly Mill Brow Independent, Marple Bridge, Derby

I know you don't know who Lucy married but do you know anything about her children?

Regards
Valda

[Sylviaann]

Marilyn

The church used to be called Mill Brow independant in Marple Bridge, Derbyshire.  It was a non conformist church.

I believe it is now called United Reform Church, Marple, Stockport, Cheshire.  There is a picture on http://www.goytvalleyurc.org.uk/Marple_Bridge.htm


If you click this and the other link I gave you you will be able to see something about the church.

Marple Bridge is on the borders of Derbyshire and Cheshire.  So is New Mills.

I'm not sure what information you require. You have Lucy's parents.  It would be best to try to find their marriage on the IGI www.familysearch.org probably in Derbyshire or Cheshire but they could have come from anywhere in England

If she was still in England in 1851 you could ask for a lookup of the 1851 census giving probable year of birth, place and parents names.

Sylviaann

[peterbennett]

Hi Marilyn

                  I believe this may be your Lucy Ashworth, please do not be put of by the Stockport referances, it was quite common for the populas of Marple to marry at Cheadle and Stockport.

Marriage 21/June/1835 at St Mary Cheadle Stockport Lucy Ashworth and Samuel Moles.

1837 Stockport directory Samuel Moles Beer retailer Wellington Road South Stockport.

1841 census HO107-113-6-Page 1  Wellington Road South Stockport

Samuel Moles 30/35 beer seller     all born in county
Lucy                25/30
Mary ??           15/20 servant
Hannah Ashworth 13 female serv

1848 Stockport Trades Directory Samuel Moles publican Greyhound Tavern Romily Stockport

1851 census HO107-2154-Folio 164   Romiley Stockport Cheshire

Samuel Moles head marr 40 Publican born Stockport
Lucy               Wife  marr 38                            ~
Robert Bromiley serv 16                                 ~
Ann Booth                  16 servant                    ~

Samuel Moles died in Marple 1853 http://www.cheshirebmd.org.uk/

Lucy married again in 1854 William Brooks at Stockport St Mary

1861 census RG9-2569-Folio54  Middle Hill Gate Stockport

William Brookes head 53 pork butcher born Stockport
Lucy                   wife 48
Martha Smeby serv 17

Lucy Brooks died later in 1861 in Stockport aged 49 

Hope this helps, I would suggest that you post a request in the Derbyshire county board for 1851/1841 census and maybe a marriage for Lucy just incase there are two of them.
    It may also help to prove the findings if you purchase a marriage certificate for Lucy and William Brooks this would give you her fathers name.

peterbennett