Mullingar >Help in information on Ellen Rose Keane/Simmons .

[Bambi1st]

I cant thank you enough for all the information you have given ,its so wonderful to be able to know names and dates etc ,thank you once again.

[dathai]

Think i have John Keane's Parents   Patrick Keane/Kane/Kain/Cain and Ellen Early
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01nc3/

i noticed on one or two of John Keane's children's birth's the informant was Ellen Keane of Glanidan?
 e g John's daughter  born 1890
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1890/02407/1897623.pdf

which leads to two deaths registered on the same day 10th March 1898
Patrick Kane age 63 husband of Ellen of Glenidan
John Kane age 10/months/Hrs ? son of a Lbr and Julia Kane of Cumberstown
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1898/05838/4653489.pdf

John born 1897
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1897/02126/1808096.pdf

they were described as Pauper's on the birth of their daughter Catherine 1865
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1865/03551/2307365.pdf

Mary Anne born 1872 as Cain number 91
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1872/03221/2180955.pdf

was living in Dorset St ,Dublin in Jan 1901 when she married Mathew Downes in St Joseph's ,Berkley Rd
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1901/10300/5749159.pdf

1901 with her mother Ellen
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Dublin/Inns_Quay/Dorset_Row/1324060/

1911 my goodness they have'nt aged a bit
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/Rotunda/Dorset_Lane/30125/

cant see an obvious death for Ellen

[Bambi1st]

Wow I knew we were a big family but your great information has proven what I though my granddad was one of 11 children 2 who died as babies and its actually proved the person who thought our great grandparents were the same is incorrect ,so more searching now on my Irish grandmothers side ,thank you so much for filling in the gaps .

[dathai]

Thought i had the Simons family sorted but ran into a bit of confusion after the 1901 and 1911 censi
Patrick said he was the son of John Simons from Robinstown
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1894/10563/5848260.pdf
in 1901
Patrick say's he is 35
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Meath/Kilskeer/Johnstown/1614119/

possible birth 1866 in Robinstown to John Simons and Anne Mooney
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1866/03530/2299551.pdf

John Simons died 1899 age 81 informant son Richard
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1899/05806/4643455.pdf

Anne died 1909 with daughter Ellen as informant
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1909/05453/4526028.pdf

but 1901 census she say's Margaret Farrelly single is her sister ?
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Meath/Kilskeer/Robinstown/1614191/

Margaret Farrelly died 1907 with Richard Simons nephew as informant
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1907/05532/4560727.pdf

This appears to be Ellen her daughter in 1901
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Dublin/Rathmines___Rathgar_East/Castlewood_Avenue/1291588/

married James Meehan in 1909
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1909/10036/5650662.pdf
1911
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Meath/Rathmore/Muchwood/729657/
think the young lad should be Eugene


Son Richard ? 1911
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Meath/Crossakeel/Ardglassan/727646/

what's not helping the fact's is i cant see any obvious births for Richard or Ellen

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01nc4/

[Bambi1st]

Strange as my nan Ellen Simons was a spinster when she married married my granddad Mathew Keane ,it seems to contradict itself ,I know she had a son Tom/Thomas Somins before she married my granddad but apparently she was never married before ,Ellen's father was Patrick Simons and her mother Bridgit Maiden name Sheridan ,Ellen was born 29th august 1904 in Johnstown, 30th september 1931 she married Mathew Keane and had 4 x more boys John,Michael, Noel and James.

[Bambi1st]

I was told she was 1 of 11 x children.

[dathai]

Well that seems right according 1911 census with 9 surviving
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Meath/Kilskeer/Johnstown/720268/

Margaret the twin of Rose died 1909
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1909/05462/4528638.pdf

Rose married Philip Rowe 1930
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1930/09040/5271098.pdf

address a bit different but this might be Kate to John Farrelly 1938
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1938/08885/5213475.pdf

[dathai]

possible death for Bridget the mother in 1945 age 73 still married registered in Trim but address of Kilskyre
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1945/04615/4224368.pdf

Patrick 1950 widower from Johnstown age 83 informant dtr Bridget
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1950/04532/4194385.pdf

http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/meath/photos/tombstones/kilskyre-rc/target166.html

http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/meath/photos/tombstones/kilskyre-rc/target160.html

[Bambi1st]

I am so suprised and so happy at the picture of Rose's grave stone ,I remember my nan telling me about her how they said she was locked in her room for many years as a youngster they said she was mad whatever that meant in them days but to know she married and had children of her own fills me with joy, I feel I am now fully understanding the family ,thank you.