Holcroft Marsh Street Warrington

[garstonite]

living with his ds brother Richard aged 7 in 1871 census
Household
Birthplace
Richard Holcroft    Head    M    23    Manchester, Lancashire
Annie Holcroft    Wife    F    26    Liverpool, Lancashire
Alice Holcroft    Cousin    F    9    Warrington, Lancashire
Trial Holcroft    Cousin    M    7    Warrington, Lancashire
.......................... a boarder in 1881
Household
John Gandy    Head    M    25    London, Middlesex, England
Margaret Gandy    Wife    F    24    Warrington, Lancashire, England
Sarah Jane Gandy    Daughter    F    2    Warrington, Lancashire, England
Tryal Holcroft    Lodger    M    18    Warrington, Lancashire, England
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and look at this one - 1828 - has to be Julians family
Name    Tryal Holcroft
Gender    Male
Christening Date    07 Sep 1828
Christening Date (Original)    07 SEP 1828
Christening Place    WARRINGTON,LANCASHIRE,ENGLAND
Father's Name    Thomas Holcroft
Mother's Name    Ann

[BumbleB]

1851 - HO107/2203 folio 249 page 15

Thomas Allen - 49 - Spinner
Mary - 49
Margaret Holcroft - 21
James Holcroft - 21 - Spinner
John Thomas Holcroft - 6 months

[garstonite]

 5 x Tryal Holcroft back to 1714
Marriage: 27 Jan 1714/5 St Elphin, Warrington, Lancashire, England
Triall Houlcraft -
Ann Harrison -
......................... 4 of them were Butchers ....
Tryal was born around 1686 as he was 34 when baptised

Baptism: 2 Apr 1720 St Elphin, Warrington, Lancashire, England
Triel Houlcroft -
    Notes: Baptized when he was about 34 yeares old

[BumbleB]

Tryal Holcroft, baptised 1828 dies September quarter 1851 - Warrington - aged 22.

[BumbleB]

And poor little sausage - Tryal - born September quarter 1852 = mmn Allen, dies the same quarter. 

[Justin Holcroft]

Thank you all soooo much - I'm officially gobsmacked!

[BumbleB]

Pleasure    And come back if you think we can help further. 

[Jan10]

Hi Justin, I think your Grandad is my Grandad's brother. I was looking up your Grandad because his name is on the roll of honour in Padgate Primary School and came across your post in a search. My auntie researched the Holcroft family and we are related to Sir Thomas Holcroft who owned land in the Culcheth area of Warrington. There is a Holcroft Lane in Culcheth. We also have a connection to Captain Blood who plotted to steal the Crown Jewels. I was looking at the family tree I have from my auntie and it ties in with what you have posted. Our dad's would have been cousins and I think you're related to Nicky Holcroft who was a quite well known TV personailty in the 70's/80's and was known as Nicky Martin. I remember he used to visit a lady who lived near us, we knew her as Mrs Cox.

[Justin Holcroft]

Hi Justin, I think your Grandad is my Grandad's brother. I was looking up your Grandad because his name is on the roll of honour in Padgate Primary School and came across your post in a search. My auntie researched the Holcroft family and we are related to Sir Thomas Holcroft who owned land in the Culcheth area of Warrington. There is a Holcroft Lane in Culcheth. We also have a connection to Captain Blood who plotted to steal the Crown Jewels. I was looking at the family tree I have from my auntie and it ties in with what you have posted. Our dad's would have been cousins and I think you're related to Nicky Holcroft who was a quite well known TV personailty in the 70's/80's and was known as Nicky Martin. I remember he used to visit a lady who lived near us, we knew her as Mrs Cox.

Hi Jan10, we are definitely on the same page....my dad, James (born 1915) got married in 1936 to Gladys Bradshaw and had three kids, of whom Nicky was one, so he will have been my half-brother. He sadly passed away last year but I saw he had a great career on telly and later on the cruise liners as an entertainer. I am also a pro musician and always wondered where the musical ear came from - my dad and mum never mentioned dad's first marriage and we only found out about it by chance a couple of years ago, when my dad was featured in an article in the Warrington Guardian.
Both the Thomas Holcroft and the Colonel Blood connection are correct, and I believe Thomas Holcroft built a house on the foundations of the Vale Royal Abbey just outside Winsford. Blood was married to a Maria Holcroft.