Thomas family missing on the 1861 Census

[Ellenmai]

I am having trouble finding the Thomas Family on the 1861 Census & would be very grateful for any help finding them.
On the 1851 Census they are living at Bryn Fedwen, Bethesda family members are:-
Hugh Thomas born 1820 Llandwrog, Caernarvonshire,Wife Mary born 1820 Llandegai, Children Ann born 1842, John 1844, Mary 1846,Elizabeth 1847 & Hugh 1849.
On the 1871/81 Census Hugh is a widower living at 5 Twr Bethesda.

[Ellenmai]

Sorry I forgot to say all the children were born in Llanllechid, Caernarvonshire

[Ladyhawk]

I am having trouble finding the Thomas Family on the 1861 Census & would be very grateful for any help finding them.

On the 1851 Census they are living at Bryn Fedwen, Bethesda family members are:-
Hugh Thomas born 1820 Llandwrog, Caernarvonshire,
Wife Mary born 1820 Llandegai,
Children
Ann born 1842, John 1844, Mary 1846,Elizabeth 1847 & Hugh 1849.

On the 1871/81 Census Hugh is a widower living at 5 Twr Bethesda.

Sorry I forgot to say all the children were born in Llanllechid, Caernarvonshire

I can't find them in 1861 either 

1851 census Hugh Senior's occ is a Quarryman
HO107; Piece: 2518; Folio: 525; Page: 33

To help others looking I've added the details of the
1871 census RG10; Piece: 5733; Folio: 12; Page: 16

Hugh Thomas Widr.     49 Carnarvon Llanll??, Quarryman
Hugh H Thomas   son   22 Llanllechid, Quarryman
Ellis Thomas   son       18 Llanllechid, Quarryman
William Thomas   son   13 Llanllechid, scholar
Jane Jones   36 servant

When did his wife Mary die?

[osprey]

I'm not finding them either. I've tried searching just on first name and just on surname. Hugh's birthplace on the 1871 is given as Llanllyfni.

 

[Ladyhawk]

I've tried searching just on first name and just on surname.
 

I've also tried using just initials and not come up with anything 

There is this 1861 entry for a Hugh Thomas age 13 Inmate in Bangor, but he's born Bangor 
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7LJ-MFG

Haven't found anything for an Ellis Thomas age 8 or William Thomas age 3 in 1861

[giggsycat]

Is it another 'one of those' that is missing? I don't know how to check but I expect someone else can?

Giggsy

[osprey]

it's not on the list of missing pieces on FindMyPast.

https://www.findmypast.co.uk/articles/census-for-england-wales-and-scotland-missing-pieces

Is this a notice for the death of Hugh's wife? No name given for the wife, but there is a death reg death qtr 1862 Bangor vol 11b pg 361 for Mary Thomas aged 43 as per the article. The children could be Sarah and Robert.
- ignore this, just found the burial, mother of Sarah & Robert was Ellen, all 3 buried 5 Nov 1862 in Glanogwen
https://newspapers.library.wales/view/4259938/4259943/15/

 

[giggsycat]

Thankyou Osprey!

Giggsy

[osprey]

well, I've found a burial for Hugh Thomas in Glanogwen 4 Aug 1887 aged 67 address Twr, Bethesda.
There are baptisms in the same church for

Ellis bp 13 march 1853 son of Hugh & Mary
William bp 15 Nov 1858 son of Hugh & Mary

Possible burial for Hugh Hugh Thomas 6 Aug 1903 aged 54 of 71 Penybryn, Bethesda