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Re: Stack/Molony family locations in Ballybunion
« Reply #18 on: Saturday 09 February 19 11:11 GMT (UK) »
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Re: Stack/Molony family locations in Ballybunion
« Reply #19 on: Saturday 09 February 19 11:13 GMT (UK) »
Just for information

Mary Stack daughter of Philip and Joanna married Robert Jones 18th October 1876
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000634245#page/22/mode/1up

Civil record shows Philip Stack - Labourer

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1876/11189/8100402.pdf
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Re: Stack/Molony family locations in Ballybunion
« Reply #20 on: Saturday 09 February 19 12:57 GMT (UK) »
So here is what I have so far:

Philip Stack, from 'Knuckenore', married Mary Molony on Nov 4 1836 in Ballybunion, Kerry. Witnesses Patrick Molony and Timothy Molony. (Possible father William Molony?)

Their children:
Patrick Stack, 11 Dec 1839, Derrenavack
James Stack, 17 Apr 1842, Dirrenavack - moved to Pittsburgh, PA ~1865, married Mary Ryan
Catherine Stack, 24 Apr 1844, Coolkeragh
Bridget Stack 1 Feb 1847, Coolkeragh
William Stack, 13 May 1848, Dirrenavack
John Stack, 25 Jun 1850, Tullamore - moved to Pittsburgh, PA ~1870, married Mary Cox (not 100% sure)
Honora Stack, 1 Nov 1857, Derrenavak - moved to Pittsburgh, PA ~1880, married Thomas Lyons
Philip Stack 1 Aug 1860, Gale - moved to Pittsburgh, PA 1881, married Mathilda Greaser

So, assuming that the rest lived until adulthood, I am looking for Patrick, Catherine, Bridget and William who stayed behind in Kerry.

This means that the Catherine Stack marriage you found is a possibility, as well as the Philip Stack death record with William as a son.

Also, I have not actually gotten the records for the births listed above. Would they have any additional information not found on the indexes on irishgenealogy.ie?

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Re: Stack/Molony family locations in Ballybunion
« Reply #21 on: Saturday 09 February 19 13:05 GMT (UK) »
When you write that you are looking for those siblings who stayed behind in Kerry - are you just assuming they did because they are not on record in Pittsburgh?

If that is your Catherine, here she is in 1901 - Kate Collins
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Kerry/Shronowen/Coolkeragh/1422594/

She is Catherine in 1911
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Kerry/Shronowen/Coolkeragh/274285/

Her daughter Maria married William Stack
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Re: Stack/Molony family locations in Ballybunion
« Reply #22 on: Saturday 09 February 19 13:22 GMT (UK) »
When you write that you are looking for those siblings who stayed behind in Kerry - are you just assuming they did because they are not on record in Pittsburgh?

Yes, right now I don't know a lot to go on so I'm making a lot of guesses. This article gave me a lot of interesting clues. My 3rd great grandmother is Honoria Stack Lyons, and is mentioned as one of James Stack's surviving sisters. The rest of the siblings all line up, so I am sure this article is about the right family.

(There's another sister listed in the article as Mrs. David Guiney, but Mrs. David Guiney turns out to be Johanna Stack, who I don't have a birth record for, and her US death record says she was born on June 6 1860 to William Stack and Mary unknown. This record may be wildly wrong (ie wrong father and birthdate, as another child was born in Aug 1860. This is another mystery to solve later)

So, there may have been more siblings that moved to the US if they died before 1920, but the article seems pretty clear about listing all of the surviving family.

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Re: Stack/Molony family locations in Ballybunion
« Reply #23 on: Saturday 09 February 19 14:09 GMT (UK) »


Also, I have not actually gotten the records for the births listed above. Would they have any additional information not found on the indexes on irishgenealogy.ie?


Their baptisms are on Irish Genealogy in the Church Records.
Their births are not in the Civil Records because Civil registration of births only started in 1864.

The baptisms can be found on the parish records on NLI
https://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0651

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Re: Stack/Molony family locations in Ballybunion
« Reply #24 on: Saturday 09 February 19 14:50 GMT (UK) »


Also, I have not actually gotten the records for the births listed above. Would they have any additional information not found on the indexes on irishgenealogy.ie?


Their baptisms are on Irish Genealogy in the Church Records.
Their births are not in the Civil Records because Civil registration of births only started in 1864.

The baptisms can be found on the parish records on NLI
https://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0651

Sorry, that's what I mean. Would the actual baptismal record list anything more than the indexes for those records on irishgenealogy.ie? I just found the first one, for Patrick Stack on 11 Dec 1839 and although I can't really read it, it seems to have the same info on the index here: https://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/20de270035478

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Re: Stack/Molony family locations in Ballybunion
« Reply #25 on: Saturday 09 February 19 14:56 GMT (UK) »
The only way to know is to find each one, although I doubt there will be anything extra.

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Re: Stack/Molony family locations in Ballybunion
« Reply #26 on: Saturday 09 February 19 14:59 GMT (UK) »
It is essentially the information. There may be different spellings in the sense that the transcriber has written what he/she sees whereas you might interpret it differently.
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