Ballinrobe 1833

[JA JULIEN]

Hi,
i'm loocking for 2 records in Ballinrobe, in this period :

-the birth of Helen Greaven in 1833
-the death of her mother around 1835

Where can i found theses records ?

best regards,

JA JULIEN

[aghadowey]

Hi, i'm loocking for 2 records in Ballinrobe, in this period :
-the birth of Helen Greaven in 1833
-the death of his mother around 1835
Where can i found theses records ?
best regards,
JA JULIEN

Do you mean the death of Helen's mother around 1835?

Civil registration of births (and deaths) didn't start until 1864. For earlier records you need to see if church registers survive (not all that do are online).

If they were Catholic the Ballinrobe registers are here- however, it looks as though the earliest baptisms are from 1843 onwards.
https://registers.nli.ie/parishes/1047
In Ireland Ellen is more often used as the variation of Helen.

Did Helen marry? if so, when and where? does the marriage record (or a later death record) give name of either of her parents?

[JA JULIEN]

Yes i mean helen's mother.(mistake corrected)

actually, on some documents I find either Ellen or Helen or the French version Hélène.

Yes I already got somes records about her (Mariage(+contract), Deaths, Children's birth) :
She got married in France in Paris with Charles JULIEN in 1857 ( I think she emigrated after the great starvation).
She died in 1907 in Nantes (France).
On the wedding contract, i found :
She is the daughter of James GREAVEN (dead in 1848) and Mary Tyrrell of Tyrone(dead around 1835 in Ballinrobe), she has some brothers and sister born during the 1820-1835 period).
I don't know if they were catholics but they were noble families.
On her death record, her mother is named Mary Tyron and her father James was a doctor (maybe some archives about ballinrobe's hospital ?)

Thank you for the answer
Cheers

[hallmark]

https://www.johngrenham.com/c_parish/c_parish.php?county=Mayo&surname=Graven

[hallmark]

https://www.johngrenham.com/c_parish/c_parish.php?county=Mayo&surname=Greaven

[heywood]

Welcome to Rootschat 

The Tithe Applotment Books show Js Graven in Knockfereen, Ballinrobe - 1827

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01ne7/

[heywood]

Find my Past has Irish newspaper snippets which mention a James Graven 1830-1849.
Whether it is the same family, I do not know.

[aghadowey]

There's a Dr. James Greaven mentioned in Irish newspapers but he seems to have been at Ellis Quay, Dublin in 1847. In 1850 directory there's a Denis Greaven at 27 Ellis's Quay.
https://www.libraryireland.com/DublinDirectory1850/g.php
Not sure if this is the same Dennis Graven whose son James was baptised 1842 in Dublin-
https://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/display-pdf.jsp?pdfName=st.nicholas_mf_1838-1853_ba_0050

I did find record of Anthony James Greaves, apothocary, of Galway town, who died in 1865-
http://www.willcalendars.nationalarchives.ie/reels/cwa/005014890/005014890_00134.pdf
Anthony Joseph Greaven died 13 Mar.1865 age 68.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QGK1-KTJJ

Searching in civil records there's only 1 Greaven entry for Ballinrobe registration district- John Greaven died age 25 in 1866 (entry not yet online).

Paris, or even France, is an unlikely place to send a young girl during or just after the Great Famine which a good reason. Perhaps she was entrusted to nuns or went there as a governess or servant. I can't see any links to a noble family.

Added- from 1851 newspaper there's a Denis Greaven, M.R.C.S. [Master Royal College of Surgeons] with no location given.

[aghadowey]

Newry Reporter, 2 Sept.1911: ... but by her,who died 3rd Feb.1884, he had no issue. He married, secondly, _th October, 1889, Mary, only daughter of Anthony Greaven, M.D., of Eyre Street, Galway, but by her (who married, secondly, Mr. Sheehy, _, R.I.C.) he had no family. His death...

Dublin Evening Post, 1 Oct,1825: APOTHECARIES HALL, DUBLIN. MR. ANTHONY GREAVEN, of Galway, after due Examination in Pharmacy and Chemistry, he obtained his Qualification as Licentiate Apothecary. 

Galway Vindicator & Connaught Advertiser, 12 Apr.1845: BIRTH. … the instant, High-street, the lady Anthony J. Greaven, of a son.