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Re: Unknown ancestor with a wooden leg - date please
« Reply #18 on: Tuesday 12 February 19 13:58 GMT (UK) »
Agree v. late 1850's-early 1860's.
They look to be well into their 50's at least.
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A long way from London fashions were frequently 10 years or more behind the times
Not sure where this has come from.
Disagree that some women were 10 years behind.
With quarterly periodicals being circulated throughout the Empire
women were no more that a few months behind the latest fashion.
Even women on the lowest social scale always had something up to date
as Sunday best.
Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
Kings of Wessex & Scotland
Census information is Crown copyright,from
www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/

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Re: Unknown ancestor with a wooden leg - date please
« Reply #19 on: Tuesday 12 February 19 14:45 GMT (UK) »
Jim has made me wonder if this chap is the original candidate after all. Silvander SIMSON (known as Samuel) was born in 1810 and died in 1860. His wife, Mary PALMER, bp 1818, died in childbirth in 1858. The baby went to the workhouse and died six months later. Perhaps the photo was taken when she was pregnant, or perhaps it was taken after Mary’s death and the woman is one of Silvander’s daughters. The deaths could explain why he looks so unhappy. He was a quay porter, though, and I wonder how he’d have managed this with a stump. There was an inquest into his death and the certificate includes the note that he ‘…rambled into said Beer House…’ where he died. Can a man with a wooden leg ramble? And could poorer people afford photos?

I’ve uploaded another photo of his youngest daughter, Mary Jane SIMSON, born 1855, married 1876. We thought this was taken before she married, perhaps for her future husband who was in the merchant navy. There’s something about her eyes and nose that look similar to the chap with the wooden leg but could be just wishful thinking.

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Re: Unknown ancestor with a wooden leg - date please
« Reply #20 on: Tuesday 12 February 19 14:51 GMT (UK) »
This is also 1860's but late decade.
It always helps dating if you show the whole card & the back.
Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
Kings of Wessex & Scotland
Census information is Crown copyright,from
www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/

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Re: Unknown ancestor with a wooden leg - date please
« Reply #21 on: Tuesday 12 February 19 15:09 GMT (UK) »
Hello Jim, this is the whole card. It was cut and stuck in a frame and later in an album. It's stuck so securely that the old backing won't come off. Same for the older photo.

If the second photo is late 1860s, it means Mary Jane is younger than she looks there. The ID is one we're pretty sure of. Jane was alive until 1930 and passed on these photos.