Fraser's From Dores

[Wendy2305]

Hi which census do you have the family in as I believe I have Alexander Janet Alexander and Mary at Moor Of Errogie Dores and Flora at Boleskine & Abertarff, Inverness as a dairymaid

Oops should've said this was 1881 census So if that online tree is correct and Alexander dies in 1885 have you checked if Janet is alive on any wedding certs to narrow down her death

[Marg59]

Hi Wendy,
No I haven't found any marriages other than Alexander's, Janet was alive then (1891)

[Wendy2305]

There's a death in 1907 Dores Janet Fraser other name Fraset age 86 which could be a possibility

[nikitah]

Hi Marg59, the Janet Fraser you have was the sister of my Husbands 2x great grandmother Mary Fraser , Mary married David Rose, Mary died age 45 in 1870 her sister Janet Fraser was present at her death. their father was Simon Fraser, a mason their mother was Mary Fraser ms Fraser. the further back you go the less you will find on the records and as you have probably realised Frasers married Frasers. I will see if there is anything else I might have that maybe of help, Simon I think was of Gorthleck and as far as the Rose / Fraser are concerned the stayed around Errogie and Farraline. Nikitah   

[Marg59]

Hi Nikitah,
Your the first person who has had the same Fraser's  , I also have Simon and Mary, but no dates as yet for them. I am going to Scotland later this year and have been wanting to find any cemetries or places that they lived.
Thanks Marg

[Forfarian]

Marg59 Make sure that you get all the relevant certificates well in advance so that you know exactly where you are looking for. There are lots of folk on RootsChat who can help with finding places that no longer exist or have changed their names.

Some of the places mentioned in this thread - Auldearn, Boleskine and Abertarff, Dores and Inverness - are parishes. Auldearn is in Nairnshire and the others in Inverness-shire, between them covering the whole of the east side of Loch Ness and the River Ness, plus quite a bit more around the south end of the loch. That is quite a large area and you need to pinpoint where you are going in that area before you get there. There are parish maps and descriptions in the county pages at https://www.genuki.org.uk/big/sct (you have to scroll down to the list of county names - clicking on the map doesn't work).

You can read the parish articles from the Statistical Accounts of Scotland at http://stataccscot.edina.ac.uk/static/statacc/dist/home. These gives a lot of information that will help you to understand what it was like to live in any of these parishes in the 19th century.

Errogie is an area in the parish of Boleskine. There is a tiny village - see http://www.geograph.org.uk/gridref/NH5522 and https://www.geograph.org.uk/gridref/NH5622 - on the shore of Loch Farraline. Errogie House is north of the end of the loch - see https://www.geograph.org.uk/gridref/NH5623

Farraline is on the east side of Loch Farraline - see
https://www.geograph.org.uk/gridref/NH5621

Gorthleck is a short distance south-west of Loch Farraline - see https://www.geograph.org.uk/gridref/NH5320 and https://www.geograph.org.uk/gridref/NH5421

I am not sure exactly where 'Moor of Errogie' is. I suspect that it was a name originally applied to all the crofts beside the track north of Loch Farraline and Errogie House.

For gravestones try https://sites.google.com/site/highlandmemorialinscriptions/home - but of course that only helps if (a) they had gravestones and (b) someone has gone out and recorded what was on the stone.

There should be burial records, which will be in the care of Highland Council. Have a good rake through the catalogue of their archives at https://www.highlifehighland.com/highland-archive-centre/ and if necessary arrange to go there when you arrive in Inverness to view the records - if you discuss it with them in advance they will have them all ready for you when you arrive.

You will have to hire a car and you should get decent maps - the Ordnance Survey Landranger series as a minimum. Do not attempt to rely on Google maps or (even worse) a satnav!

You are legally entitled to walk over most land in Scotland, provided that you do no damage and do not put yourself or anyone else in danger, and you do not infringe other people's privacy. The same does not apply if you are driving, however. Just in case you want to walk where your ancestors did, familiarise yourself with the 'Right to Roam' by reading up on the Scottish Outdoor Access Code https://www.outdooraccess-scotland.scot/

[nikitah]

Wow, Forfarian, that's some fantastic information, thank you . Marg59, Simon Fraser married Mary Fraser at Dores 19/11/1803, on the marriage certificate it says Gorthleck, it can be spelt in different ways. these are the children I have for them,                                                                               
             John 1805,      Margaret 1810,     Hugh 1812,       Alexander 1815,    Thomas 1817,     Janet 1819,     Catharine 1822       and Mary 1824, on Mary's it says Tomvoit, there seems to be a few big gaps but I haven't found any others to this couple.      I think Simon may have died before 1841 because I can't find him on any census nor can I find a death, in 1851 at Boleskine, Mary I believe is living with her daughter Mary Rose ms Fraser although it says" Sister" to the head in this case her son in law I have no doubt this is the widow of Simon and mother of Mary, it states " formerly masons wife". unless you know they went further afield I would stick with the Stratherrick area that covers south Loch Ness as Forfarian says you will need a car but you wont be disappointed. Farraline is a big house where my Fraser/ Rose family worked they lived with in the grounds at Balnoe this is now a ruin, as far as I know they are not related to the  Frasers of Farraline. There's a grave yard at the side of the Loch you can't miss it just before Foyers my Roses are there but I haven't found Simon and Mary there's also one at Dores if you come in from Inverness that's the one you will see first the road goes right through to Fort Augustus. Nikitah.   

[nikitah]

just membered there's another graveyard at Whitebridge, Nikitah.

[nikitah]

hi Marg 59, just checked Simon and May's  marriage and noticed something I never noticed before, it was Mary of Gorthleck and Simon was of Clune, on the same day a Donald Fraser marries a Mary Fraser and he is said to be of Clune. more digging to do  Nikitah