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Re: Dr Russell Flint Maddren and wife Elizabeth Sanderson (what is her maiden name?)
« Reply #18 on: Friday 15 February 19 12:05 GMT (UK) »

The Brooklyn Daily Eagle  (Brooklyn, New York) 29 Aug 1921, Mon  -  Page 2

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/28441255/dr_maddren/

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Re: Dr Russell Flint Maddren and wife Elizabeth Sanderson (what is her maiden name?)
« Reply #19 on: Friday 15 February 19 12:09 GMT (UK) »

Perhaps Russell and Augusta Marie divorced ...............

The Brooklyn Daily Eagle  (Brooklyn, New York) 11 Apr 1931, Sat  -  Page 11

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/28441277/augusta_marie_maddren/

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Re: Dr Russell Flint Maddren and wife Elizabeth Sanderson (what is her maiden name?)
« Reply #20 on: Friday 15 February 19 12:13 GMT (UK) »
Canadian passenger List shows Russell and Augusta Marie Maddren - 16 November 1925 arriving Vancouver BC on the Empress of Canada.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KDZ7-TVJ

Border crossing Vermont St Albans - 22 November 1927  - Marie Augusta - father Jens Eberruf

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QK3R-V1ZL

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-9981-H9S9-G?i=64&cc=2185163

New York Passenger List - sailing from Liverpool 9 March 1929 - Russell Maddren aged 42 years - doctor - last residence Shangai China -  going to Long beach  Marie 31 years -

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-G547-9431?i=280&cc=1923888

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Re: Dr Russell Flint Maddren and wife Elizabeth Sanderson (what is her maiden name?)
« Reply #21 on: Friday 15 February 19 13:43 GMT (UK) »
What an interesting fellow Russell was!

Anyway, some points of confirmation:

() Elizabeth's surname is clearly Coulson, not Caulson.

() Her age at marriage confirms birth in 1893. Not sure where the 1896 reference came from.

() Her mother I thought was born in Scotland but Ireland is certainly plausible. Many Irish migrated to England and Scotland in the nineteenth century. She may have grown up in Scotland.

() The newspaper confirms that Russell went to England, making it possible to have met Elizabeth there.

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Re: Dr Russell Flint Maddren and wife Elizabeth Sanderson (what is her maiden name?)
« Reply #22 on: Friday 15 February 19 13:54 GMT (UK) »
Thank you, Sandra. That has been an enormous volume of work.
I don't think I have ever seen so much data on anyone before.

I'm getting dizzy trying to keep track of Russell's marriages.


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Re: Dr Russell Flint Maddren and wife Elizabeth Sanderson (what is her maiden name?)
« Reply #23 on: Friday 15 February 19 14:07 GMT (UK) »

Happy to help  ;) Partial copy - U.S., Applications for Seaman's Protection Certificate - 6 June 1924

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Re: Dr Russell Flint Maddren and wife Elizabeth Sanderson (what is her maiden name?)
« Reply #24 on: Friday 15 February 19 21:54 GMT (UK) »
I have a photograph of Elizabeth and her unnamed husband from about 1920, given to me two years ago by a descendant of Elizabeth's brother.

I have cropped the picture down to the husband's face and placed it next to the photo ID supplied by Sandra, dated 1924.

That's a pretty good face match, I would say.
Even the glasses match.


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Re: Dr Russell Flint Maddren and wife Elizabeth Sanderson (what is her maiden name?)
« Reply #25 on: Friday 15 February 19 22:04 GMT (UK) »
A question now about the year 1917.

Elizabeth & Russell married in Washington State in 1917,
just months before America's entry to WW1.

Would passengers have been able to travel freely from the UK to the US at this time?

For comparison, I have an ancestor who was unable to return to the the UK from NZ in 1917
because passenger services were disrupted/cancelled due to the war.

If it was truly the case that passage in and out of the UK was impossible during wartime,
then we'd be forced to say that Elizabeth and her Mum had been in the US before 1914.

Opinions, anybody?

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Re: Dr Russell Flint Maddren and wife Elizabeth Sanderson (what is her maiden name?)
« Reply #26 on: Friday 15 February 19 22:20 GMT (UK) »
Don't know if this is her but there is an Elizabeth Coulson age 19 on a passenger list 22 July 1913 travelling from Liverpool to Boston on the "Franconia"
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