John GARTH (b. ca. 1766, d. 1842) - where did he come from?

[wivenhoe]

John GARTH, died 1842, is your ancestor. Which of his sons / daughters are you descended from?

Does the marriage record, 1797, describe him to be a bachelor, or is this possibly a second marriage for John GARTH, born ~ 1766?

[Maiden Stone]

Marriage register didn't state whether John Garth was a bachelor or not. The only fact it gave about him was his abode - Bootheroyd. Bride, Mary Kershaw was of "Toad Lane in this parish". Wedding was at St. Chad, Rochdale, 13th Nov. 1797. Witness Luke Neild, John Kershaw.
Lancashire Online Parish Clerks www.lan-opc.org.uk
Edit. Luke Neild must have been a church official. He witnessed many marriages that year.

[Maiden Stone]

The earliest Garth parish register entry within 10 miles of Rochdale on LANOPC is marriage banns at St. Mary, Oldham 1790 for Robert Garth and Mary Butterworth, both of the parish. I don't see a marriage for them.
Robert and Nancy Garth, abode Toad Lane, Rochdale, had daughter, Sarah baptised at St. Chad, Rochdale, 12th Nov. 1797 (previous day to John Garth's wedding there).
A Robert & Ann Garth had children baptised at Shaw Chapel, Oldham from 1800. Joseph (1800), Thomas (1805), Samuel (1808). Abode was High Crompton 1800 & 1805 and Pastuers 1808. Robert's occupation was weaver in 1800 and farmer 1808. The 2 occupations are compatible.
Shaw Chapel was C. of E.
A Robert Garth, aged 54 was buried at Shaw Chapel 1823.
There are wills at Lancashire Archives of Robert Garth, farmer, High Crompton , Prestwich-with-Oldham (1823) and of Nancy Garth, widow of same place (1841).
High Crompton is/was on the Rochdale side of Shaw.
There were other Garth couples in High Crompton. John & Mary; James & Fanny; Robert & Sally. Each couple named a son Reuben. John & Mary had 2 Reubens. James and Fanny seemed to switch religious allegiance, unless they were different couples. Son, Livi (Levi?) baptised at Union St. Wesleyan Chapel, Rochdale 1821. Previous children baptised at St. Paul, Royton.

[lmfamilyresearch]

John GARTH, died 1842, is your ancestor. Which of his sons / daughters are you descended from?

Does the marriage record, 1797, describe him to be a bachelor, or is this possibly a second marriage for John GARTH, born ~ 1766?

I am descended from John's son George.  George immigrated to Canada with his wife Sarah Whit(t)aker (and a couple of their children).

[lmfamilyresearch]

Marriage register didn't state whether John Garth was a bachelor or not. The only fact it gave about him was his abode - Bootheroyd. Bride, Mary Kershaw was of "Toad Lane in this parish". Wedding was at St. Chad, Rochdale, 13th Nov. 1797. Witness Luke Neild, John Kershaw.
Lancashire Online Parish Clerks www.lan-opc.org.uk
Edit. Luke Neild must have been a church official. He witnessed many marriages that year.

I figure that after John's marriage to Mary, he moved to Toad Lane where her residence was when they married.  The baptismal records for their first 4 children indicated that John and Mary's abode was Toad Lane.  Mary's death record (1838) said "John Garth, Widower, Shopkeeper, present at death, Toadlane, Wardleworth".  Only after her death did John move in with his daughter Mary and her husband (William Wright) on High Street (from the 1841 Census)

[Maiden Stone]

The earliest Garth parish register entry within 10 miles of Rochdale on LANOPC is marriage banns at St. Mary, Oldham 1790 for Robert Garth and Mary Butterworth, both of the parish. I don't see a marriage for them.

Correction. Bride's name was Nancy. Sorry about that. Nancy is a derivative of Ann.
1797 baptism entry for Sarah Garth was the only evidence I found for any other Garth family in Rochdale in 1790s. It may have been coincidence that they were also living in Toad Lane; on the other hand, Robert may have been a relative. I suggest investigating him and other Robert & Nancy/Ann couples. Rochdale and Shaw are a only few miles apart with High Crompton in-between.

[Maiden Stone]

Did John leave a will?

[lmfamilyresearch]

I have not been able to find a will for John.  It would have been great if he had.

[wivenhoe]

".. daughter Mary and her husband (William Wright) on High Street (from the 1841 Census)"

Census 1841  at Rochdale, Lancashire
WRIGHT William   37yrs
WRIGHT Mary      30 yrs
WRIGHT George    6 yrs
WRIGHT William    3 yrs
WRIGHT Elizabeth  8 mths
GARTH John         70 yrs     ind. means
GARTH Walter       15 yrs
and several others grouped as one household....some Irish born........difficult to read....


Is this your Walter....with grandmother?
Census 1851  at 31 High Street Wardleworth Lancashire
GARTH Walter            23 yrs  head  tallow chandler            b. Rochdale, Lancashire
GARTH Lucy               22 yrs  wife   ***** spinner             b. Preston Lancashire
MITCHELL Jane           19 yrs unmarried   "     "                  b. Oldham, Lancashire
BOOCOCK Margaret     64 yrs  grandmother  widow paup    b. Scotland