Author Topic: Thomas Forsyth Newcastle Policeman 1816 to ?  (Read 1947 times)

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Re: Thomas Forsyth Newcastle Policeman 1816 to ?
« Reply #18 on: Saturday 02 March 19 06:53 GMT (UK) »
Thanks. I picked this one up yesterday via The Courant, and I picked up his death notice from 26/11/1858. I was hoping for an obit that outlined his career, particularly before 1816 but I have enough for a wee bio of him in my larger project. I really only need him up to 1826.

The Kent connection is a bit of a 'brain-tickle' for me because I would like to know why he was there, particularly at a time when that kind of mobility was not encouraged. He was in the army seems the obvious answer, but I can't prove that.

Another interesting aspect for me is the gap between 1807 and 1816 and his move from Maidstone back up north. Was he involved in law enforcement before 1816, and if so where and when? To be elected as a Serjeant of the Mace, would he have to have been a constable, or perhaps a watchman?

Also, how did he become Newcastle's 'detective'? He is often sent out into other jurisdictions to arrest culprits or investigate crimes, but I can't find where that began. I have an inkling that he was the oldest, or perhaps just most mature, SotM, so he was deemed the most reliable.

The pondering continues...
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Re: Thomas Forsyth Newcastle Policeman 1816 to ?
« Reply #19 on: Saturday 02 March 19 06:56 GMT (UK) »
British History online

http://www.british-history.ac.uk/no-series/newcastle-historical-account/pp611-627

See footnote No. 37 (or screen search "forsyth" - 2 hits)

Note - is this "Mackenzie" you refer to in an earlier note?

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« Reply #20 on: Saturday 02 March 19 07:03 GMT (UK) »
Thanks. That is the Mackenzie. I went through it with a fine tooth comb yesterday and pulled out lots of useful information I can use. I noted also that Forsyth was a subscriber to Mackenzie, which I found interesting as it suggests a competent level of literacy.
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« Reply #21 on: Saturday 02 March 19 07:32 GMT (UK) »
Mackenzie's footnote identifies him as a non commissioned officer in the Northumberland Militia.

The National Archives has details of where information is held about the Northumberland militia -
eg. Newcastle Uni has " ...membership lists 1809-1813"; Northumberland archives has "papers 1792-1807"


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« Reply #22 on: Saturday 02 March 19 07:45 GMT (UK) »
Ha! Thanks! Maybe I should have processed all my photos before speculating?

You've been incredibly helpful and I truly appreciate that. Maybe I should send you the other names I'm chasing down :)
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Re: Thomas Forsyth Newcastle Policeman 1816 to ?
« Reply #23 on: Saturday 02 March 19 08:48 GMT (UK) »
Kentish connection?

Try tracking "Northumberland Militia" via the newspapers 1806-1808 - Dover mentioned 1806 but mainly Suffolk (Pevensey, Hastings, Battle, Steyning etc)

In July 1805 they were in barracks at Chatham.


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Re: Thomas Forsyth Newcastle Policeman 1816 to ?
« Reply #24 on: Saturday 02 March 19 08:49 GMT (UK) »
Thanks. I will put that on my list for next week's library adventure.
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