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Re: Looking for advice tracing my grandfather, Alfred John Ransley, born at sea
« Reply #18 on: Wednesday 13 March 19 18:32 GMT (UK) »
No worries. Do you have an approximate date of birth for Ellen, John's mother?

It would be worth looking for a marriage certificate for John to Grace, to see if he was a widower if he married her in SA.

Is it Alfred's exact date of birth & mother you hope to find from his birth certificate [if one exists]? Not all those consular returns are complete sadly so a SA baptism is the most likely source, unless he was baptised on the ship.
Seeking: baptism Philip Murray 1813 nr Chatham Kent, death Ralph James Dunn b 1808 1861 - 1868 in Newington 1861
IRE: Kik DRAY[EA], PURCELL, WHITE: Mea LYNCH: Tip MURRAY, SHEEDY: Wem ALLEN, ENGLISHBY; Dub PENROSE: Lim DUNN[E], FRAWLEY, WILLIAMS.
87th Regiment RIF: MURRAY
ENG; Marylebone HAYTER, TROU[W]SDALE, WILLIAMS Con HAMPTON, TREMELLING Wry CLEGG, HOLLAND, HORSEFIELD Coventry McGINTY
CAN; Nova Scotia [Halifax, Pictou]: HOLLAND, WHITE, WILLIAMSON

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Re: Looking for advice tracing my grandfather, Alfred John Ransley, born at sea
« Reply #19 on: Sunday 17 March 19 16:34 GMT (UK) »
Good day Josey

The date of birth of Ellen Ransley I traced from a tomb stone stating .....   Birth date   1 August  1828   died 20 July 1898
She was buried with John Ransley so I assume its his mother or sister who came on the ship with him.

I am looking for the marriage certificates and will let you know

thank you for your assistance   

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Re: Looking for advice tracing my grandfather, Alfred John Ransley, born at sea
« Reply #20 on: Tuesday 19 March 19 21:49 GMT (UK) »

Hi,

I think Ellen RANSLEY who died on 20 July 1898 could be a second wife to John, her death cert. says she was married no children,

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9Q97-Y3QQ-NMX?i=614&cc=1779109



Her Death Notice gives her parents as ?? Van STREET and Doza Van STREET and a surviving spouse John RANSLEY.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSQ8-XLC1?i=201&cc=2517051

Note that she was Nellie on both records.



I'm sorry, I can't find it, when did John RANSLEY die?

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Daisy
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Re: Looking for advice tracing my grandfather, Alfred John Ransley, born at sea
« Reply #21 on: Tuesday 19 March 19 22:28 GMT (UK) »
Quote from Vida at Reply#10

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As far as my Great Grand Father  John Ransley  I do have the death certificate which states that he was born 1844 in Kent
Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire

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Re: Looking for advice tracing my grandfather, Alfred John Ransley, born at sea
« Reply #22 on: Wednesday 20 March 19 20:10 GMT (UK) »
thank you Josey for your assistance.  I am wanting to apply for an ancestral visa.  Both my children are on a spousal ancestry visa in the UK and I want to be with them

From the tombstone,  John died 1st September 1909. Maybe if we can get his death certificate we can get more,   

Just a question: If Alfred John was born on the ship in 1880 where can we get records?   

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Re: Looking for advice tracing my grandfather, Alfred John Ransley, born at sea
« Reply #23 on: Wednesday 20 March 19 22:27 GMT (UK) »
If he was born at sea but it was not registered, then there ARE no birth records.....
Seeking: baptism Philip Murray 1813 nr Chatham Kent, death Ralph James Dunn b 1808 1861 - 1868 in Newington 1861
IRE: Kik DRAY[EA], PURCELL, WHITE: Mea LYNCH: Tip MURRAY, SHEEDY: Wem ALLEN, ENGLISHBY; Dub PENROSE: Lim DUNN[E], FRAWLEY, WILLIAMS.
87th Regiment RIF: MURRAY
ENG; Marylebone HAYTER, TROU[W]SDALE, WILLIAMS Con HAMPTON, TREMELLING Wry CLEGG, HOLLAND, HORSEFIELD Coventry McGINTY
CAN; Nova Scotia [Halifax, Pictou]: HOLLAND, WHITE, WILLIAMSON

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Re: Looking for advice tracing my grandfather, Alfred John Ransley, born at sea
« Reply #24 on: Wednesday 20 March 19 23:04 GMT (UK) »
As I said in my earlier post he isn't coming up in the All UK, Registers of Births, Marriages and Deaths at Sea, 1844-1890. If the ship belonged to another country there is the possibility he was registered there.

I think your only hope is to try and find what ship he was on, as the the ship's log, if it has survived, stated births and deaths on the voyage.
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