Looking for advice tracing my grandfather, Alfred John Ransley, born at sea

[josey]

No worries. Do you have an approximate date of birth for Ellen, John's mother?

It would be worth looking for a marriage certificate for John to Grace, to see if he was a widower if he married her in SA.

Is it Alfred's exact date of birth & mother you hope to find from his birth certificate [if one exists]? Not all those consular returns are complete sadly so a SA baptism is the most likely source, unless he was baptised on the ship.

[vida04]

Good day Josey

The date of birth of Ellen Ransley I traced from a tomb stone stating .....   Birth date   1 August  1828   died 20 July 1898
She was buried with John Ransley so I assume its his mother or sister who came on the ship with him.

I am looking for the marriage certificates and will let you know

thank you for your assistance   

[Daisypetal]

Hi,

I think Ellen RANSLEY who died on 20 July 1898 could be a second wife to John, her death cert. says she was married no children,

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9Q97-Y3QQ-NMX?i=614&cc=1779109



Her Death Notice gives her parents as ?? Van STREET and Doza Van STREET and a surviving spouse John RANSLEY.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSQ8-XLC1?i=201&cc=2517051

Note that she was Nellie on both records.



I'm sorry, I can't find it, when did John RANSLEY die?

Regards,
Daisy

[Girl Guide]

Quote from Vida at Reply#10

As far as my Great Grand Father  John Ransley  I do have the death certificate which states that he was born 1844 in Kent

[vida04]

thank you Josey for your assistance.  I am wanting to apply for an ancestral visa.  Both my children are on a spousal ancestry visa in the UK and I want to be with them

From the tombstone,  John died 1st September 1909. Maybe if we can get his death certificate we can get more,   

Just a question: If Alfred John was born on the ship in 1880 where can we get records?   

[josey]

If he was born at sea but it was not registered, then there ARE no birth records.....

[groom]

As I said in my earlier post he isn't coming up in the All UK, Registers of Births, Marriages and Deaths at Sea, 1844-1890. If the ship belonged to another country there is the possibility he was registered there.

I think your only hope is to try and find what ship he was on, as the the ship's log, if it has survived, stated births and deaths on the voyage.

[vida04]

good day Josey

Can you give me some advise how to trace which ship John Ransley come over from UK to South Africa?

I really would appreciate any help

regards

[groom]

good day Josey

Can you give me some advise how to trace which ship John Ransley come over from UK to South Africa?

I really would appreciate any help

regards

I've looked on Ancestry, Find My Past and The Genealogist and I'm afraid I can't see any records of  Ransleys going to S Africa then.

Nothing here either  http://www.eggsa.org/cgi-bin/dosearchArrivals.pl