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Looking for Mary Davies family
« on: Tuesday 05 March 19 17:12 GMT (UK) »
I'm searching for the Parents & siblings of Mary Davies born 1864 Penmachno, Caernarvonshire. I believe she married John Jones around 1892/3 Penmachno. He was born 1865 Penmachno & on the 1901Census they lived at 5 Fron Deg, Penmachno. Thanks for any help or advice.

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Re: Looking for Mary Davies family
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 05 March 19 21:12 GMT (UK) »
Have you checked the 1871 census for her?

The nearest in age was b 1868 but you would need Mary’s marriage cert to establish who her father was
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Re: Looking for Mary Davies family
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 06 March 19 08:12 GMT (UK) »
Just posting the 1901 reference
RG13/5245 f33 p3

Possible marriage  :-\
June qtr 1891   
Davies    Mary       
Jones    Hannah       
Jones    Hugh Parry       
Jones    John David       
Llanrwst    11b   555

Have you found John on earlier census
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Re: Looking for Mary Davies family
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 06 March 19 13:42 GMT (UK) »
Thank you both for your replies.
Carole I have looked on the 1871 Census but the only possible I found was Mary Davis Born 1861 Penmachno, Father William 1827 Penmachno, Mum Mary 1830 Penmachno, siblings Catherine 1857, Jane 1859, Ellen 1857 all born Penmachno, but really not sure about this one.
Yes Rosie I did find John Jones's Parents, Father David Jones born 1842 Penmachno, Mum Jane born 1841 Blaenau Ffestiniog living at Fotty Penmachno on the 1871 Census & No3 Bryn Penmachno on the 1881 Census. I am yet to find their Marriage!
John Jones & Mary's marriage year was estimated 1892 on the Census but not found it as yet.


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Re: Looking for Mary Davies family
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 06 March 19 15:06 GMT (UK) »
Hi
Apologies if you already have this information but John and Mary Jones of Frondeg were buried in Tudclud church yard. the gravestone is in Welsh but states JOHN jONES died 12 April 1923 aged 59 (birth would be around 1864) MARY JONES died 5 November 1934 aged 71 (birth around 1862).  Also buried with them is their daughter MARY L JONES.
Checking on GRO index the only one that would fit for a mother maiden name DAVIES is MARY ELIZABETH JONES.

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Jones - Penmachno/Blaenau Ffestiniog/Capel Garmon
Thomas - Abererch/Porthmadog
Evans - Llangelynin/Llanaelhaern
Jones - Pwllheli/Abererch
Brammer - Lincolnshire/Nottinghamshire
Robb - London/Scotland

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Re: Looking for Mary Davies family
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 06 March 19 15:14 GMT (UK) »
John Jones & Mary's marriage year was estimated 1892 on the Census but not found it as yet.

Have you discounted this one


Possible marriage  :-\
June qtr 1891   
Davies    Mary       
Jones    Hannah       
Jones    Hugh Parry       
Jones    John David       
Llanrwst    11b   555

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Re: Looking for Mary Davies family
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 06 March 19 15:56 GMT (UK) »
Given the name of John's father, the one mentioned by Rosie in 1891 seems the most likely.

Acoording to http://www.northwalesbmd.org.uk it was a civil ceremony, and so you would need the certificate to be certain.

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Re: Looking for Mary Davies family
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 06 March 19 16:02 GMT (UK) »
Sorry Rosie for not answering on the marriage in 1891, I didn't think it was that one as that John has a middle name David. In the meantime I have had another look this afternoon under Llanrwst Denbighshire a different County but nearby as the one you found was Llanrwst too & there is a marriage for Mary Davies & John Jones 1892 so thank you for that.
Thank you also Glyn, that info on the deaths has been excellent, is there any more info on Mary L Jones the daughter, please.
Given we now have 1862 for Mary's possible birth, another possible family have come up on the search in the 1881 Census.They are living at Bryn Tirion Penmachno, that Mary's father William Davies born 1829, mother Elizabeth born 1838, siblings Ellen 1868, William D 1879 & David D 1881. Would value any opinion on whether this could be the right family.

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Re: Looking for Mary Davies family
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 06 March 19 16:09 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for that David I do see your's & Rosie's point, so I think we have narrowed it down to the 2 registered in Llanrwst one in 1891 & one in 1892.