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Re: Charles Edward Owtram
« Reply #45 on: Thursday 14 March 19 19:23 GMT (UK) »
Charles's widow seems to have married again after his death

Marriages Sep 1970 
OWTRAM    Marie I    WOOD    Plymouth    7a   2000    
WOOD    Malcolm    OWTRAM    Plymouth    7a   2000

yup, picked that up as well....seems to run in the family (and yes, I am going to be extra extra nice to my wife from now on  ;D )
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Owtram, Plymouth, Kenya, South Africa
Baker, South Africa

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Re: Charles Edward Owtram
« Reply #46 on: Thursday 14 March 19 19:31 GMT (UK) »
There's an Administration for a Marie Imelda BRISTOW of Plymouth in 1982.

Did she marry again?? There can't be many Marie Imeldas around.
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Re: Charles Edward Owtram
« Reply #47 on: Thursday 14 March 19 19:59 GMT (UK) »
This is her death registration which gives a date of birth

Deaths Jun 1982   
BRISTOW    MARIE IMELDA    6SE1917    LANCASTER    40   1542
Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire

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Re: Charles Edward Owtram
« Reply #48 on: Thursday 14 March 19 20:01 GMT (UK) »
There's an Administration for a Marie Imelda BRISTOW of Plymouth in 1982.

Did she marry again?? There can't be many Marie Imeldas around.

I wouldn't be surprised....what is an administration? sorry, probably really thdooopid question, but I haven't been in the UK since 1989...
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Re: Charles Edward Owtram
« Reply #49 on: Thursday 14 March 19 20:04 GMT (UK) »
A brief explanation or not!  ;D

The person dealing with the estate of the person who has died is called an executor or an administrator. An executor is someone who is named in the will as responsible for dealing with the estate. An executor may have to apply for a special legal authority before they can deal with the estate. This is called probate.

An administrator is someone who is responsible for dealing with an estate under certain circumstances, for example, if there is no will or the named executors aren't willing to act. An administrator has to apply for letters of administration before they can deal with an estate.

Although there are some exceptions, it is usually against the law for you to start sharing out the estate or to get money from the estate, until you have probate or letters of administration.
Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire

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Re: Charles Edward Owtram
« Reply #50 on: Thursday 14 March 19 20:05 GMT (UK) »
Not finding any marriage for Marie to a Bristow.
Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire

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Re: Charles Edward Owtram
« Reply #51 on: Thursday 14 March 19 20:08 GMT (UK) »
A Marie I. Helsby married a Henry J. Bristow in Manchester Mar.qtr.1942 - he appears to be Henry James Bristow b.1910 who died in Sept.2006 Plymouth.    Since she seems to have remained a Bristow until her death in 1982 don't see how she can be 'your' Marie who was Owtram in 1950's.

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Re: Charles Edward Owtram
« Reply #52 on: Thursday 14 March 19 20:10 GMT (UK) »
At the time of her death she was living at Beaconfield, Seymour Road, Mannamead, Plymouth.

You could try and locate an electoral roll for that address in 1982 or a bit before and see who was living there.  Just Marie or someone else as well?
Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire

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Re: Charles Edward Owtram
« Reply #53 on: Thursday 14 March 19 20:13 GMT (UK) »
It probably is the Helsby one - this looks to be her birth registration

Births Dec 1917 
Helsby    Marie I    Feeney    Chorlton    8c   919

May have been registered a bit late so went into the December quarter.
Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire