Theresa Agnes Elliott

[ozranga]

Hi,
Theresa Agnes Elliott married Gregory Thomas Byrne on 6th November 1871 in Maryborough Victoria.
If anyone has the marriage certificate  & can help me with her parents names I'd be ever so happy.
I do not believe she was the daughter of Bridget Nihil, & need this to progress.
Thanks in advance

[cupoflife]

Death: 12/05/1929
7394/1929 Theresa A. BYRNE; Father-Andrew; Mother-Bridget; Kogarah
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/16550407
Death 1/12/1904
12037/1904 Gregory T. BYRNE; 65 Yrs (Sydney); Sydney
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/228258269
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/14638434
Same plot: Waverley Cemetery: W-18-RC-OR-2741
Theresa Agnes BYRNE age 75 date of interment 05/14/1929
Gregory Thomas BYRNE age 64 date of interment 12/02/1904

[ozranga]

Thank you so much for your very speedy reply, but I have this information. I don't think Bridget was her mother for a couple of reasons & just want to check if the answer is out there before I purchase the certificate, which may still not have the answer!

[majm]

The m.c. is usually considered a more reliable document,  with first hand info .... and VIC BDM  documents have headings for a real depth of family history to be available ..... but ....  have you good reasons to be unsure of her knowledge of her parents when she married ...... if so,  then  perhaps the answers found on that  m.c. will at least provide her responses ......

Have you checked
 * Trove, 
 * death cert of  Bridget to see if your lass is named as her daughter


JM

[cupoflife]

Thank you so much for your very speedy reply, but I have this information. I don't think Bridget was her mother for a couple of reasons & just want to check if the answer is out there before I purchase the certificate, which may still not have the answer!

Bridget ELLIOTT death notice https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/9888347
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/139802717
....widow of the late Andrew Elliott, beloved mother of William, Susan, Albert, Ada, Mary and Matthew Elliott
PROV file:
Bridget ELLIOTT Date of grant: 08 Apr 1905; Date of death: 09 Mar 1905; Occupation: Widow; Residence: Williamstown
https://prov.vic.gov.au/search_journey/select?q=series_id:(28%207591%207592%207933%2017379)%20AND%20family_name:(Elliott)%20AND%20given_name:(Bridget)&start_date=1905&end_date=1905&form_origin=WILL_SEARCH
Children listed
- Albert Andrew ELLIOTT (death 1929/ 15423 parents Andrew ELLIOTT/Bridget NIHILL)
- William ELLIOTT
- Susan MATTHEWS (death 1944 /12697 MATTHEWS Susan Agnes parents Andrew ELLIOTT/Bridget (Nihill) 82 years b. Williamstown d. Williamstown)
- Ada WALSH (death 1930/ 11522 WALSH, Ada May, parents Andrew ELLIOTT; unknown; Richmond)
- Lena CURRIE (marriage 1920 /9503 to Jas HEATON) (death 1961 /12719 HEATON Lena parents Andrew ELLIOTT/Bridget (Nihill) 90 years b. Williamstown d. Windsor
- Matthew ELLIOTT (death 1905/ 11101 ELLIOTT, Matw Fran, parents Andw ELLIOTT/Bridt NIHILL; Wmstn) https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/69695496
- Mary BAILEY (deceased) (death 1890 /5225 BAILEY Mary parents Andw ELLIOT/Bridt (NIHIL) 21 years d. Wmstown)
- granddaughter Mary BAILEY daughter of deceased Mary Bailey

[ozranga]

Thank you cupoflife & majm,
My reasons for disbelieving are:
Theresa's birth was at least 7 years before Andrew & Bridget married on 28 July  1862,when Andrew is noted as bachelor. Theresa was said to have been born in Westmeath Ireland. Bridget was born County Clare c 1837, Andrew baptised Launceston 1837.
Theresa is not listed or even mentioned on Bridget's administration in 1905. all the surviving children born to Andrew & Bridget are included.
I have checked Trove but not viewed Brigdget's dc.
Theresa could well be Andrews daughter, but as majm pointed out, she may not even know!

[Dundee]

I think she is more likely to be the daughter of Andrew ELLIOTT and Bridget MORAN.

Just doing a general search, possible siblings died in Victoria - Catherine SEARLE (1920), Ann HOGAN (1883), Margaret BAKER (1903), and Rose WOODGATE (1910).  These girls, including Teresa and others, are showing as baptisms in Westmeath, Ireland.

Margaret, Rose, and Teresa are on a manifest for the Jessie Munn arriving in Victoria in 1863 but crossed out as not being onboard.  They were travelling with a Catherine TRACY.  The three girls' ages are all exactly three years out on that manifest compared to the Westmeath baptisms.

Do you not even know where Teresa was born or how old she was?

Debra 

[ozranga]

Thanks Debra,
I'll go down this track, & see what happens from here.
Theresa's age in 1929 at death was given as 75.
I have to be 100% sure.
Marienne

[sparrett]

Victorian index regarding marriage of Rose ELLIOTT to Musgrave WOODGATE gives her birthplace as
TUBERCLARE
I do not know what /where. Perhaps someone else does.

For the marriage of Margaret to Alfred BAKER, her birthplace is WESTMEATH.

The indexing for the other women, Theresa, Ann and Catherine gives no birthplace.

Sue