Robert Muir b1845- difficulty finding birth and mothers name.

[mojo_jojo]

I am trying to find a birth record for a Robert Muir b1845 who is my 3rd great grandfather and find out who is mother and father are.
On the 1881 census with his wife Frances and children it says he was born perthshire scotland. I have tried to use scotlands people but unsuccessful. I tried finding him on earlier census 1851 or 1861 but no luck. On his marriage entry to frances in 1871 all saints church hpool its says his fathers name is James.

Can anyone help point where I can go to from here?

[CaroleW]

What was his fathers occupation on the marriage cert?

[CaroleW]

1881 is shown as Muers and youngest son James birth was registered as Muers in 1880.  Son Matthew was registered as Muirs and Robert as Muer.  Dtr Janet as Muers

Frances was nee Musgrove

Marriages September qtr 1871 
MOORE    Robert         Hartlepool    10a   223    
MUSGROVE    Frances         Hartlepool    10a   223

[CaroleW]

A possibility ??  Robert had children named Ann & Janet

1851 for Kinnoull Perthshire

James Moore    34 farm servant b Forgundeny??, Perth
Ann  30 Fortingall, Perth
Catherine  13  ditto
Margaret      10 b Kettle Fife
Robert  7 b Kettle Fife (would be 2yrs old or less when family moved to Perthshire)
Ann  5 Forgundeny
Janet  2 Kinnoull
Kinnoull ED 5 Page 10 Line 15

[loobylooayr]

Hi ,

Another possibility  1851 Census -   Damside,  (Parish)Trinity-Gask, Perth
Betsy  Laurance          aged 57    Head   Unmarried    Labourer at general   born Perth- Blackford
Robert Moir                 aged  6     Visitor                    Scholar                    born Perth- Muthill



Looby

[CaroleW]

Robert Moir  aged  6  Visitor   Scholar born Perth- Muthill

Possibility he could be the 1881 entry - Robert More b 1844 Muthill and living in Kippen Stirling with wife Margaret.  Married as More in 1879 - Kippen Stirling

[CaroleW]

Just found Robert More on the 1871 living in Kippen - father was Moses.  Checked back and he is with parents in 1851 as More so the 1851 for Robert Moir could well be a good find

[Forfarian]

Forgundeny??

That will be Forgandenny.

[rosie17]

On his marriage entry to frances in 1871 all saints church hpool its says his fathers name is James.

Do you have the names of the witnesses or an address..?

You might have this 1871 census record address looks like Dundas Street Stranton West Hartlepool
William Duncan age 40 born Scotland
Mary M Duncan age 28 born Scotland ( wife )
James Duncan age 5 born Scotland
William Duncan age 3 born Scotland
John R Duncan age 1 born Hartlepool
Robert Muri  age 26 born Scotland ( railway labourer )

Birth for John Robert Duncan 1871 Hartlepool on Gov.gro records mothers maiden name Muir
So I would say possibly his sister  on the 1851 census posted by CaroleW

Rosie