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Ancestors who were vicars.
« on: Thursday 04 April 19 13:53 BST (UK) »
In the 1600s, I have found a number of my Essex ancestors were vicars. Humphrey Cole of Tillingham, Essex (c1547-1624) and I think I may have found another ancestor who was a Reverend. Isaiah Sutcliffe who was a vicar in Essex in the 1620s and 1630s. Sutcliffe is a Yorkshire/Lancashire name and I wonder if Isaiah came from that way originally. A William Sutcliffe of Grimsby was posted as a vicar to Essex in about 1620. No known connection to Isaiah yet. Not sure if all vicars went to university in those days or did some other training.

Anyone else come across ancestors who were in the clergy? Some were even buried inside the church such as inside the chancel etc.
Researching:

LONDON, Coombs, Roberts, Auber, Helsdon, Fradine, Morin, Goodacre
DORSET Coombs, Munday
NORFOLK Helsdon, Riches, Harbord, Budery
KENT Roberts, Goodacre
SUSSEX Walder, Boniface, Dinnage, Standen, Lee, Botten, Wickham, Jupp
SUFFOLK Titshall, Frost, Fairweather, Mayhew, Archer, Eade, Scarfe
DURHAM Stewart, Musgrave, Wilson, Forster
SCOTLAND Stewart in Selkirk
USA Musgrave, Saix
ESSEX Cornwell, Stock, Quilter, Lawrence, Whale, Clift
OXON Edgington, Smith, Inkpen, Snell, Batten, Brain

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Re: Ancestors who were vicars.
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 04 April 19 14:03 BST (UK) »
I presume you have seen this:
http://theclergydatabase.org.uk/

You can search via names, and it provides further information.

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Re: Ancestors who were vicars.
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 04 April 19 14:07 BST (UK) »
Mapstone, Mapston.
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Re: Ancestors who were vicars.
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 04 April 19 14:09 BST (UK) »
"By the 1630s, however, it seems that most parishes, at least in the south of England, had a clergyman with a university education. Most stemmed from the middle ranks of society. In the north of England and the north Midlands, however, many clergy came from humbler social backgrounds, were educated locally," https://www.familysearch.org/wiki/en/Clergy_of_Church_of_England_(in_England)


Use http://www.rootschat.com/links/01nm6/ instead
Stan
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Re: Ancestors who were vicars.
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 04 April 19 14:39 BST (UK) »
I presume you have seen this:
http://theclergydatabase.org.uk/

You can search via names, and it provides further information.

Many, many thanks for this Stan.
Researching:

LONDON, Coombs, Roberts, Auber, Helsdon, Fradine, Morin, Goodacre
DORSET Coombs, Munday
NORFOLK Helsdon, Riches, Harbord, Budery
KENT Roberts, Goodacre
SUSSEX Walder, Boniface, Dinnage, Standen, Lee, Botten, Wickham, Jupp
SUFFOLK Titshall, Frost, Fairweather, Mayhew, Archer, Eade, Scarfe
DURHAM Stewart, Musgrave, Wilson, Forster
SCOTLAND Stewart in Selkirk
USA Musgrave, Saix
ESSEX Cornwell, Stock, Quilter, Lawrence, Whale, Clift
OXON Edgington, Smith, Inkpen, Snell, Batten, Brain

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Re: Ancestors who were vicars.
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 04 April 19 14:42 BST (UK) »
Stan, I get the following message from clicking on your links:
Clergy of Church of England (in England
There is currently no text in this page. You can search for this page title in other pages, or search the related logs, but you do not have permission to create this page.



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Re: Ancestors who were vicars.
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 04 April 19 15:36 BST (UK) »
Stan, I get the following message from clicking on your links:
Clergy of Church of England (in England
There is currently no text in this page. You can search for this page title in other pages, or search the related logs, but you do not have permission to create this page.



I don't know why that link does not work but if you click on http://www.rootschat.com/links/01nm6/
it should take you to the page.
Stan


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Re: Ancestors who were vicars.
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 04 April 19 16:02 BST (UK) »
The Clergy Database normally indicates when someone went to university, but it's often a good idea to check lists of alumni anyway. For most pre-19th century English clergy this would be Oxford or Cambridge, but I recently came across one who went to Glasgow (late 17th century).

Many of the alumni lists are in printed volumes which can be found at the Internet Archive, but Cambridge can also be accessed at

http://venn.lib.cam.ac.uk/acad/2018/search-2018.html

(The direct link to the database looks as though it changes from time to time. If that one doesn't work, you should be able to get there from the introductory page at http://venn.lib.cam.ac.uk/)

This includes entries for Humphrey Cole and William Sutcliffe, with notes of other biographical sources which may be useful.
Researching among others:
Bartle, Bilton, Campbell, Craven, Emmott, Harcourt, Hirst, Kellet(t), Kennedy,
Meaburn, Mennile/Meynell, Metcalf(e), Palliser, Robinson, Rutter, Shipley, Stow, Wilkinson

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Re: Ancestors who were vicars.
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 04 April 19 16:09 BST (UK) »
I cannot seem to find Isaiah Sutcliffe. I did read that he was a Reverend. He died in 1655 in Rettendon, Essex and was said to be a clerk.

A google books lists Isaiah as a Rev isaiah Sutcliffe. https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=8JcbV309c5UC&pg=PA522&lpg=PA522&dq=%22rev.+isaiah+sutcliffe%22&source=bl&ots=kwmGJ_GS9b&sig=ACfU3U28Nlt84smiqCm-qb4KqLk0PEvP-Q&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiCt-mI3LbhAhXXQxUIHTlID8QQ6AEwAnoECAgQAQ#v=onepage&q=%22rev.%20isaiah%20sutcliffe%22&f=false
Researching:

LONDON, Coombs, Roberts, Auber, Helsdon, Fradine, Morin, Goodacre
DORSET Coombs, Munday
NORFOLK Helsdon, Riches, Harbord, Budery
KENT Roberts, Goodacre
SUSSEX Walder, Boniface, Dinnage, Standen, Lee, Botten, Wickham, Jupp
SUFFOLK Titshall, Frost, Fairweather, Mayhew, Archer, Eade, Scarfe
DURHAM Stewart, Musgrave, Wilson, Forster
SCOTLAND Stewart in Selkirk
USA Musgrave, Saix
ESSEX Cornwell, Stock, Quilter, Lawrence, Whale, Clift
OXON Edgington, Smith, Inkpen, Snell, Batten, Brain