1901 census

[eirwen]

I have in the 1911 census a William Morgan and wife Elizabeth living at PANTRYN NEWBRIDGE MON.MOUTHSHIRE Would it be possible they were living at the same address in 1901, were there any children ,Where was William born . if not there where might they be and any children. REGARDS eirwen

[louisa maud]

1911 would tell you where they were born

Louisa Maud

[louisa maud]

Whist we are not allowed to discus the 1911 census I am sure you could give a rough year of birth for William and Elizabeth, surname of Morgan in Wales

What was Elizabeth maiden name ?

Louisa Maud

[JJen]

Would this be the 1911? -

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X7P6-LCX

If so then William's birthplace could be Risca, Monmouthshire.

Also if you have the 1911 then the image will record any children born and died.

JJ

[eirwen]

let me explain My great grandmother Mary Morgan died in 1911 The death was registered by her son William who was living in Pantryn in the 1911 census said he was born Risca and his wife Elizabeth born Pontypridd His wife Elizabeth Goby was born in Risca and I know William,s  brother John and sister Mary were born Pontypridd. Think  births were transcribed wrong. So if any member could locate the  family in the 1901 census it might have the correct birth places and if there were any children. any help would be very much appreciated. Regards Eirwen

[osprey]

if you access the 1911 census on a site where you can see the schedule, there should be information about length of marriage and number of children born to the marriage. We cannot do this for you because of copyright.

Possible from 1901
17 Blaenblodau St, Abercarn RG13/4968 folio 29 pg 10
William Morgan head mar 28 colliery haulier below ground b. Pontypridd
Elizabeth wife 27 b. Pontymister
Florrie dau 3 b. Newbridge


Not seeing a birth reg for Florence/Florrie with mmn Gobey or similar. You can use the GRO index to search for births & check mother's maiden name.

https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/indexes_search.asp

[rosie99]

Presumably this is their marriage -
Dec qtr 1890   
Gobey    Elizabeth       
Morgan    William       
Newport, Mon. reg district
11a   376   

[eirwen]

I now have the census for 1901 and 1911 for William and Elizabeth Morgan I have the marriage certificate for them 1890 . In the 1901 census they have a daughter  Florrie but in 1911 census down has their niece , another transcript mistake. So if married in 1890 where were they in 1891 . believe they were boarders some where in Monmouthshire.  I know I keep asking for help but believe now that this William is the brother of my grandfather .Taken over 10yrs to get this far. If they are boarders who were they living with and did they have a child. I know one of their children died but do not know when. Would like to thank everyone who has assisted me over the last few years Regards EIRWEN

[osprey]

Have you viewed the schedule for the 1911? Florrie as niece may not be a transcription error if that is what the original says.

possible for 1891
19 Watts Villa, Mymyddyslwyn RG12/4383 folio 114 pg 62
Elijah Ricks head mar 63 coal miner b. Glos, Woolaston
Emily wife 58 b. Risca
George Harrison relative 17 coal miner b. London, Middlesex
Robert Rees relative mar 38 Taylor b. London, Middlesex
Emily Rees relative mar 28 b. Cross Keys
Evan Rees 5 b. Chepstow
Frederick Rees 2 b. Cross Keys
Florence Rees 1 b. Pontypridd
William Morgan lodger mar 23 coal miner b. Risca
Elizabeth Morgan mar 20 b. Risca

Enumerator seems to have mixed up places of birth
possible birth regs for
Florence Emily Rees june qtr 1890 Newport mmn Ricks
Frederick William Augustus Rees june qtr 1888 Chepstow mmn Ricks