Author Topic: Will from 1808  (Read 931 times)

Offline goldie61

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 4,512
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Will from 1808
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 17 April 19 23:55 BST (UK) »
If you live in Staffordshire, depending whereabouts of course, you could actually go to Stafford Record Office (in Stafford), and see and hold the actual will yourself! That would be exciting!
You can take photographs of documents - not sure what the cost of a photography permit for the day is now - about 5 pounds (sorry, no pound sign on this antipodean keyboard!).
Might be worth finding other documents held at Stafford RO if you're going to visit.
Their on-line catalogue is 'Gateway to the Past'.

https://www.staffordshire.gov.uk/leisure/archives/collections/OnlineCatalogues/GatewaytothePast/home.aspx
Lane, Burgess: Cheshire. Finney, Rogers, Gilman:Derbys
Cochran, Nicol, Paton, Bruce:Scotland. Bertolle:London
Bainbridge, Christman, Jeffs: Staffs

Offline goldie61

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 4,512
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Will from 1808
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 18 April 19 00:15 BST (UK) »
Did Joseph and his son William have a falling out?

25 JAn 1798. Article in the Derby Mercury. Uttoxeter, JOSEPH SUMMERLAND and his Son WILLI AM, both of in the County of Stafford, mutually to carry on all Business and without any interference with each other.
(Plus recorded on other dates).

Joseph Summerland mentioned in this will of Margery Gilbert of Uttoxeter. (It's been transcribed).
http://www.mikelowndes.net/mike.lowndes/lowndes/gilbert.html

There's a fair bit about your Joseph, and his sons William and John, on here - not sure if you have seen it.
https://staffspoorlawbiography.wordpress.com/tag/summerland/
You have to scroll down a bit to find the right Joseph Summerland I think.
It gives a precis of his will.
"By the time of Joseph’s death aged 70 in November 1808 he had accumulated substantial real and personal estate. His probated will of 29 April 1809 made detailed provision for his surviving children William, John and Susannah, their spouses, and his servants. The executors were his son William Summerland, Thomas Lee Higgott (gent), and Samuel Botham (land surveyor). Joseph left personal estate to the sworn value of £5,000. His two dwelling houses in Tinkers Lane in the occupations of John Goodrich and Richard Johnson together with land known as Broad Meadow and Netherwood in Uttoxeter and in Leigh were to be sold publicly or privately with the executors using the proceeds to settle debts and discharge legacies.  Additional property including a house and land at High Wood, Uttoxeter, in the holding of his servant William Felthouse was to be held by Joseph’s son John for his lifetime and afterwards by his wife for her lifetime. After their deaths the property was to be settled on John’s lawful children if he should have any. If John had no children then the property was to go to the children of his son William and to the children of his daughter Susannah Newton, the wife of John Newton.

The sum of £1,200 was to be placed by his executors in government securities with the interest to be paid to his son John and on his death to John’s widow Elizabeth was to receive £400 of the £1,200. The whole was then to be divided equally amongst their children once they reached the age of twenty-one. The executors were to invest £1,000 with the interest being paid to his daughter Susannah for her separate and exclusive use. After her death it was bequeathed to her husband John Newton and then equally to their children when they reached twenty-one. If Susannah died childless then the £1,000 legacy was to be divided amongst the children of John and William. John was to receive £200, but a codicil revoked this and the money was to be added to the £1,200 being administered by the executors for John’s benefit. Leaving money in trust to John, rather than him inheriting outright, may have been as a result of his mental instability. Susannah was to receive £500. Joseph’s servant was bequeathed £10, and his servant Mary Kendrick was to receive £20 if she was still in Joseph’s employment at the time of his decease. His messuage in High Wood, late the estate of Thomas Pitts, was bequeathed to his eldest son William, as was all remaining real and personal estate."


Lane, Burgess: Cheshire. Finney, Rogers, Gilman:Derbys
Cochran, Nicol, Paton, Bruce:Scotland. Bertolle:London
Bainbridge, Christman, Jeffs: Staffs

Offline goldie61

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 4,512
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Will from 1808
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 18 April 19 00:20 BST (UK) »
Gosh, one of Joseph's sons, John, as quite famed as a test case for mental illness.

Same page as before.
"John Summerland (b.1767)

John Summerland was the son of Joseph and Hannah Summerland. He was born in Uttoxeter in May 1767. He has entered historical consciousness through Michael Foucault’s Madness and Civilisation in which Foucault describes Summerland’s treatment at the Quaker Retreat in York for mental illness. Using William Tuke’s description of John Summerland as a being a man of Herculean size and strength, restrained by chains upon arrival and subsequently rehabilitated through Tuke’s treatment, the case is often present as a pivotal moment in the treatment of mental illness. In 2015, however, Jon Mitchell used the archives of the Retreat to present a different image of the ‘wild’ John Summerland, as a man prone to periods of instability, but also a man capable of reasoned thought, contemplation and conversation.
From the correspondence between the Summerland family and the Retreat, it is evident that his father Joseph, his brother William, and his uncle Samuel Botham, all took an active interest in John’s progress organising his admission, funding his stay and hoping that he could gain useful employment as a gardener. Moreover, in his father’s will provision was made for John’s inheritance to be placed in trust. In the correspondence of Samuel Botham it is revealed that John had recently returned to Uttoxeter from America and whilst both in Uttoxeter and in America he had attended Quaker meetings on a regular basis."
Lane, Burgess: Cheshire. Finney, Rogers, Gilman:Derbys
Cochran, Nicol, Paton, Bruce:Scotland. Bertolle:London
Bainbridge, Christman, Jeffs: Staffs

Offline helxx

  • RootsChat Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 140
    • View Profile
Re: Will from 1808
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 18 April 19 14:02 BST (UK) »
Hi goldie61, yes Stafford Record office is a good call, especially if I get to hold the actual will! Wow! I've visited a few times before, years ago, just to view parish records on microfiche.  Yes, I've seen all of the above that you've mentioned. I actually descend from John Summerland (my x4 great grandfather.) I'm rather proud of him, I must say!

Thanks again  for all your help! x


Offline helxx

  • RootsChat Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 140
    • View Profile
Re: Will from 1808
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 18 April 19 14:04 BST (UK) »
Just to add, they're quite an interesting family. Joseph Summerlands mother, Rebecca, nee Shipley, was my x6 great grandmother and also Mary Howitts, nee Botham,  grandmother! (The famous poet and writer.)